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How many spades

Poll: How many spades (26 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 2S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 3S (1 votes [3.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.85%

  4. 4S (25 votes [96.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 96.15%

  5. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2015-February-07, 19:44

I think that I have wasted several minutes of my life reading this thread that I will not get back.

Really, several posters (including me) have said in several ways that this was a perfectly normal auction. It could not be said better than this:

View Postgnasher, on 2015-February-07, 03:46, said:

I think these are a normal 1♠ overcall and a normal raise to 4♠. On this occasion the cards were lying badly, and the opponents judged and defended well. Should we start underbidding because of that?


Why is this not the end of the discussion?
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Posted 2015-February-07, 21:26

View PostArtK78, on 2015-February-07, 19:44, said:

Why is this not the end of the discussion?


Because it led to a bad result sorry was that meant to be rhetorical oh god now i've ruined everything
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Posted 2015-February-07, 22:55

View Postkuhchung, on 2015-February-07, 21:26, said:

Because it led to a bad result sorry was that meant to be rhetorical oh god now i've ruined everything

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Posted 2015-February-07, 23:16

View PostFluffy, on 2015-February-07, 18:04, said:

As opposed to a prototypical 4♠ which could be:

♠KQ10xx
♥xxx
♦x
♣QJxx

our ODR is low.


This is not a 4S. This is a 2D, cue bid showing limit raise or better.

(Actually, maybe not. It might depend on whether I think my partner can use the room better than the opponents.)
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Posted 2015-February-08, 02:04

I get it, if you don't go at least 500 opposite a minimum its not a 4♠ bid :)
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Posted 2015-February-08, 10:58

View Postkuhchung, on 2015-February-07, 21:26, said:

Because it led to a bad result


Meh. Correct bidding quite often leads to poor results when the cards lie badly and so on. That doesn't mean the bid wasn't the percentage action.

I admit I was one of the many 4♠ responders, but take Fluffy's point. I wish there was a 3.5♠ option.
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Posted 2015-February-08, 11:21

View PostNickRW, on 2015-February-08, 10:58, said:

Meh. Correct bidding quite often leads to poor results when the cards lie badly and so on. That doesn't mean the bid wasn't the percentage action.

I admit I was one of the many 4♠ responders, but take Fluffy's point. I wish there was a 3.5♠ option.


Even if there was a 3.99 ♠ option, I would still go with 4♠. I don't even think it is a close call btw.
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