[whereagles]

BBO Indy, novic... ehhh.. ahem.. expert pard

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Indy (IMPs), so no clear-cut agreements here. You have to judge what pard has and what he will make of 4♥ and 4NT.

Bid?

[Fluffy]

4♥ is obvious if partner has half a brain

[hrothgar]

Fluffy, on 2015-February-01, 15:32, said:

4♥ is obvious if partner has half a brain

Sadly, he was partnering me

[suokko]

Ok. ♠K and ♦K are good cards, ♥A is ok card but ♥Q and ♣J are poor cards.

Was it IMP scoring?

In MP 4NT S/O would be a clear bid trying to score at least same number of tricks that spade games score.

In IMP my hand looks even less perfect for a slam because I would expect a bit more active slam tries. So I would probably just tell partner I don't have good cards for a slam. But what is the best contract? 5 level requires one more tricks but is often our better fit assuming partner is holding 5-5 for the biding. For that reason I feel like biding the 4NT S/O also in IMP assuming it should be likely to make 10 tricks after a slam try.

[whereagles]

It was IMPs.

[bigbenvic]

I'm a min opening hand and have denied 3 spades, so with 4♠ hopefully he gets the picture.

if he moves again I can be happier with my hand.

[Fluffy]

suokko, on 2015-February-01, 17:16, said:

Ok. ♠K and ♦K are good cards, ♥A is ok card but ♥Q and ♣J are poor cards.

I think your evaluation is a bit off, Partner expects us to have wastage in hearts when we bid 3NT, ♥AQ9 is so much better than KJx or KQx, There are better heart holdings such as ♥AJ10, but not many. On the other hand ♠K and ♦K are not just good cards, they are amazing!. If we were on a 12-14 NT context our hand would be a monster. but the preempt has put us under pressure so we have a wider range, still we are worth a cuebid at least and I would go to slam unless partner sings off.

[mr1303]

I dislike 4NT to play, as I can easily imagine losing 3 clubs and something else in the wash for 1 down. If partner is a presumed idiot I will hope he doesn't go too many off in 4S.

[gszes]

My hand is min and I could certainly have more for my 3n bid but my hand quality
opposite a dia spa 2 suited is actually pretty darn good.
1. we have a dia fit
2. Kx of spades with the K being a superb card and
3. the doubleton a far greater asset then a singleton or a void
4. dia K is a great card for slam
5. Heart ace is a great card for slam

the above 5 could almost all have been missing when p bid 4d. 5 positive
factors is monstrously huge and a failure to at least make 1 move toward slam
seems to make one guilty of dereliction of duty. One almost wonders if a
6d might actually be better than 4h but the expected poor break in spades
and possibly in diamonds makes a 4h cue seem sufficient. I would probably
consider bidding 6d if p were to suddenly try and sign off in 5d and I would
raise a 4s bid by partner to 5s. One need to appreciate that this hand is about
as close t a miracle hand as one can get with a minimum opening bid changing the
heart Q to the spade Q would definitely have been enough for me to jump to 6d
over 4d.

[ggwhiz]

As per fluffy and gszes, that's a slam try, how can I not bid 4♥? My problem should be on the next round.

[mikeh]

Fluffy, on 2015-February-02, 03:15, said:

I would go to slam unless partner sings off.

Hmmmm.....playing online, as I suspect they were, I am not sure how we can tell whether partner is singing off, or signing off.

If he were singing, then I think we need to take another call, but if he were signing, then we pass. At least that's how we play singing bids here..

[whereagles]

ever tried stand up, mike?

[MrAce]

4♥ for me.