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Posted 2013-July-31, 22:34
vul vs not I am tempted to bid only 3♥, but I think I wouldn't. Double and if possible bid 4♥ next to show a flexible hand.
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Posted 2013-July-31, 23:36
3H
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Posted 2013-August-01, 15:59
3♥
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Posted 2013-August-01, 16:35
double and 4h. 3h will end the auction too often when we're gin for something far more exciting.
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Posted 2013-August-01, 19:01
wank, on 2013-August-01, 16:35, said:
double and 4h. 3h will end the auction too often when we're gin for something far more exciting.
Starting with double has its own risks, especially when our plan is to bid our suit god knows at which level in our next turn.
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2013-August-02, 05:14
double would be a lot more risky if we had no double structure, like having singleton spade or diamond.
But since we pretty much have support for all suits we can double again for take out if the opponents get competitive.
For example I wouldn't double with 4621 for that reason.
But since we pretty much have support for all suits we can double again for take out if the opponents get competitive.
For example I wouldn't double with 4621 for that reason.
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Posted 2013-August-02, 06:47
wank, on 2013-August-01, 16:35, said:
3h will end the auction too often when we're gin for something far more exciting.
MrAce, on 2013-August-01, 19:01, said:
Starting with double has its own risks, especially when our plan is to bid our suit god knows at which level in our next turn.
In view of these concerns, perhaps an immediate 4♥ is worth considering? Although the suit quality is somewhat lacking.
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Posted 2013-August-02, 13:08
billw55, on 2013-August-02, 06:47, said:
In view of these concerns, perhaps an immediate 4♥ is worth considering? Although the suit quality is somewhat lacking.
I would rather start double than 4♥. We don't have a gf hand, we don't have good enough hearts to bid 4 and we have other places to play.
Suggestions are
a-We can start double and then double again as Fluffy said and never show our 6 card suit
b-we can start 3♥, planning to double later if auction doesn't die at 3 level (which is not that likely holding void clubs)
c-we can start DBL, planning to bid hearts later.
d-we can start 4♥
Imo the decision between starting 3♥ and starting double is close. We can not say this for 4♥ or double followed by another double.. I would personally eliminate out a and d right away. The decision between b and c are much closer than their distance between a and d imo. I may be convinced to start double (but definetely not double again if i start double) or definetely would not consider starting 4♥.
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"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2013-August-02, 16:31
your a and c options are the same. Bidding hearts unless it comes back with 5♣.
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Posted 2013-August-05, 11:27
Clear 3♥ imo. You're too weak for 4♥ and Dbl is only good if you gamble on partner passing. But when he bids 3♠ you're basically screwed (Dbl then 4♥ shows considerable extras).
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Posted 2013-August-05, 12:27
3h
nice hand but if p is weak that means we are going to get our heads
handed to us and id rather that be in my longest and strongest suit
rather than something p found out back in the alley. P can always
do something like xx if they hate the idea of 3hx and we can run
scurry flee hopefully to the safety? of 4d and if p actually bids 3s or
4d over our 3h (especially if lho does not x) we can then show our
extra power with a 4c bid.
Those afraid to bid 3h apparently have very very VERY low standards
for a 3h vul vs not overcall this hand meets mine with not much extra
nice hand but if p is weak that means we are going to get our heads
handed to us and id rather that be in my longest and strongest suit
rather than something p found out back in the alley. P can always
do something like xx if they hate the idea of 3hx and we can run
scurry flee hopefully to the safety? of 4d and if p actually bids 3s or
4d over our 3h (especially if lho does not x) we can then show our
extra power with a 4c bid.
Those afraid to bid 3h apparently have very very VERY low standards
for a 3h vul vs not overcall this hand meets mine with not much extra
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