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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2013-July-28, 22:52



lead 2 tricks = 10

Other table:

1C 1S X 4S
4N (minors) P 5C P
P P P

tricks - 10

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Posted 2013-July-28, 23:08

Turned out to be right to pass (or double) 4. It was very close. Both 4 and 5 of a minor could be making.
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Posted 2013-July-31, 04:07

For me,I cuebid 2 showed exactly 3 support with limited values,so I never cuebid 2 but 2nt so as to show my 9 hcp plus with 4 card support.
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Posted 2013-July-31, 17:13

At table 1 I prefer a blast or a fit-jump with West. No messing around with 4-6 w/r.
At table 2 I prefer a double from North over 4. 4NT is too unilateral. If partner doesn't have a stiff you probably don't want to be at the 5-level.
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Posted 2013-July-31, 22:58

View Postquiddity, on 2013-July-31, 17:13, said:

At table 1 I prefer a blast or a fit-jump with West. No messing around with 4-6 w/r.
At table 2 I prefer a double from North over 4. 4NT is too unilateral. If partner doesn't have a stiff you probably don't want to be at the 5-level.

And if partner does have a stiff you will still be defending 4x, possibly making.
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Posted 2013-July-31, 23:02

The West hand is one where you have to create some pressure. A common mistake is trying to conduct a delicate auction in competition on a fitting hand like this. It's true that 4 may not make (in fact it will not), but blasting to the four-level has a lot of ways to win. Even a world class N-S will sometimes misjudge on such a sequence, whereas taking it slow gives them little chance to err.
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Posted 2013-August-01, 08:10

View PostArtK78, on 2013-July-28, 23:08, said:

Turned out to be right to pass (or double) 4. It was very close. Both 4 and 5 of a minor could be making.


Losing for bidding to 5m with 19 total tricks is very unlucky.
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Posted 2013-August-01, 08:22

View PostFluffy, on 2013-August-01, 08:10, said:

Losing for bidding to 5m with 19 total tricks is very unlucky.

Sorry but I don't know how N knew there were 19 total tricks. S did not yet support either minor suit. Opps will often have only a 9-card fit and partner can still have something like 2533 or thereabouts. If he has something more offensive than that, see below.

Art: if partner has a stiff and a good fit he can still pull the X. This is not a penalty double, or at least it shouldn't be.
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Posted 2013-August-01, 10:21

View Postgwnn, on 2013-August-01, 08:22, said:

Art: if partner has a stiff and a good fit he can still pull the X. This is not a penalty double, or at least it shouldn't be.

1 - (1) - x - (4) - x

Partner knows very little about my hand. Saying that if he has a good fit and a singleton might lead him to pull the double is fine if he has a club fit. But what if he has a diamond fit?

Besides, he will probably sit for the double much more often than not, even if he does have a club fit and a singleton.
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Posted 2013-August-01, 10:30

View PostArtK78, on 2013-August-01, 10:21, said:

1 - (1) - x - (4) - x

Partner knows very little about my hand. Saying that if he has a good fit and a singleton might lead him to pull the double is fine if he has a club fit. But what if he has a diamond fit?

Besides, he will probably sit for the double much more often than not, even if he does have a club fit and a singleton.


If partner is 1453 he has a pretty easy 4NT bid. Basically, I think partner should sit the double if balanced, but never sit it with a stiff spade.
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Posted 2013-August-01, 10:36

View PostPhilKing, on 2013-August-01, 10:30, said:

If partner is 1453 he has a pretty easy 4NT bid. Basically, I think partner should sit the double if balanced, but never sit it with a stiff spade.

So, what you are saying is that opener can't double with 4 beat in his own hand - say, KQJ xx AKx AJxxx
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Posted 2013-August-01, 10:45

View PostArtK78, on 2013-August-01, 10:36, said:

So, what you are saying is that opener can't double with 4 beat in his own hand - say, KQJ xx AKx AJxxx


Correct.
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