Is it ridiculous to call the director?

#21 aguahombre

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Posted 2013-January-16, 10:58

barmar, on 2013-January-16, 10:37, said:

I wonder if opener was as surprised as you were that his partner passed. What's their actual agreement? It's possible that their agreement is that it's forcing, but responder took a position, got lucky that it worked, and you were simply fixed.

Responder had a King, according to the OP; I wouldn't buy that.

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Posted 2013-January-17, 14:49

I have a hard time coming up with any explanation for responder's action other than "he took a position". Regardless of agreements about whether the bid is forcing, passing with only 4 clubs when partner's strength is unlimited and he could be as short as 2 seems illogical.

Is opener actually unlimited, or do they have another opening for "really strong" hands?

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Posted 2013-January-17, 16:00

How experienced is responder? On a couple of occassions I had a beginner partner pass my forcing bids. In one case I had creatively reversed into a 2 card suit (don't ask why) and she passed with a singleton. Not a good result considering we were cold for slam.

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Posted 2013-January-20, 01:04

Phil, on 2013-January-14, 22:52, said:

How can a bid that shows 15+ NOT be forcing?

I know of a pair who plays "strong club" or so they call, but then, they open 2♣ GF as well.

I just upvoted blackshoe for being the first one (after 9 replies) to really answer the question: No it is not ridicoulous to call director whenever you feel damaged.

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Posted 2013-January-20, 03:33

Phil, on 2013-January-14, 22:52, said:

How can a bid that shows 15+ NOT be forcing?

Just as much as a bid that shows "12+" may be not forcing.

Or just as much as a Multi 2♦ (including very strong options) is not forcing. As soon as partner thinks that pass might be the best continuation, a call is not forcing.

Whether partner's thought is bridge technically wise is irrelevant.

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Posted 2013-January-21, 11:06

Phil, on 2013-January-14, 22:52, said:

How can a bid that shows 15+ NOT be forcing?

I've often played unlimited, but non-forcing, one-level suit openings. They are not methods I made up, and are similar to methods played by S. Garton Churchill for decades. He won national events (ACBL) playing the methods, so perhaps they are not quite hopeless.

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