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Poll: Quick Poll (21 member(s) have cast votes)

Your bid?

  1. Pass (11 votes [52.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 52.38%

  2. 3C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 3H (2 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  4. Other (Pls State) (8 votes [38.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.10%

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#1 User is offline   Rossoneri 

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Posted 2013-January-12, 04:22

You hold the following:


What do you bid now? Assume you are playing 5 card majors, 15-17 NT and better minor (1♦ could be 3)

Edit: Forgot to add it's IMPs, straight KO match

This post has been edited by Rossoneri: 2013-January-12, 04:34

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Posted 2013-January-12, 04:27

I had almost this exact hand yesterday, and I was going to bid 3♥, at MPs. Sadly north bid 3♠ over partner's raise and shut me out, 3♠-1 was a poor score for me
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Posted 2013-January-12, 04:28

I would have doubled 1S
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Posted 2013-January-12, 04:38

NFB anybody?

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Posted 2013-January-12, 05:05

View Postrhm, on 2013-January-12, 04:38, said:

NFB anybody?

Rainer Herrmann

2♦ over 1♠: transfer ♥
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Posted 2013-January-12, 06:27

I cant imagine not doubling 1♠. Now I have to pass.
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Posted 2013-January-12, 07:05

How can we suddenly have a bid now when we didn't have one before? Agree with double first round.
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Posted 2013-January-12, 10:18

Is the diagram correct and it is east to bid here? I cannot believe at this level of play, that east didn't make a neg X on his first turn.
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Posted 2013-January-12, 11:08

View Postneilkaz, on 2013-January-12, 10:18, said:

Is the diagram correct and it is east to bid here? I cannot believe at this level of play, that east didn't make a neg X on his first turn.

And of course if you negative double your partner will either bid hearts or have a clue what you got!
What would a negative double change here?

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Posted 2013-January-12, 11:38

View Postrhm, on 2013-January-12, 11:08, said:

And of course if you negative double your partner will either bid hearts or have a clue what you got!
What would a negative double change here?

Rainer Herrmannr


Well if the auction goes 1♦-1♠-X-2♥ partner might bid 3♣ or X now he knows I have some values and hearts (and clubs too the way I play but that's a minority view).
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Posted 2013-January-12, 13:43

View Postrhm, on 2013-January-12, 11:08, said:

And of course if you negative double your partner will either bid hearts or have a clue what you got!
What would a negative double change here?

Rainer Herrmannr


Partner might have acted over 2H; for example he might double showing something in hearts (3 of them, maybe?) if we had a 9-card fit.
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Posted 2013-January-12, 17:45

'kgr' 2♦ over 1♠: transfer ♥

***I Play this also.
This hand just wants partner to know long hearts.
*** But it could have been S-fit but asking H-help for 4S.
*** Or even H-lead expecting opponents to bid on.
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forcing?" without intensive discussion.
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Posted 2013-January-12, 21:52

Thanks for the replies, needed it for a ruling.

FWIW, at the table where this auction happened, E bid 3H and got doubled, going 2 off.
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Posted 2013-January-13, 05:44

View PostRossoneri, on 2013-January-12, 21:52, said:

Thanks for the replies, needed it for a ruling.

Seems like this was the wrong forum to look for peers of the player involved.
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