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I think I know the answer to this, but I'd value opinions.
Bidding goes 1♦-1♥-1NT -1♠-1NT
You're called to the table and rule that the 1S has been accepted, and the auction continues.
P-P-P
Who is declarer?
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Insufficient bid - accepted
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Posted 2012-November-13, 16:30
Lanor Fow, on 2012-November-13, 16:26, said:
Who is declarer?
The first person to bid NT for the declaring side.
From the definitions:
Declarer: The player who, for the side that makes the final bid, first bid the denomination named in the final bid.
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Posted 2012-November-13, 20:36
No, it's actually the second person who bid 1NT. I was asked this the other day and told that the answer had been exhaustively researched.
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Posted 2012-November-13, 21:14
Yeah, well, whoever told you that is mistaken.
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Posted 2012-November-13, 22:38
Well, someone is anyway.
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Posted 2012-November-14, 01:31
What "extensive research" is needed beyond reading the definition?
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Posted 2012-November-14, 03:37
I couldn't find it mentioned other than in the definitions, neither the laws or white book seem to expand on that. I may have been asked the question by the same person as Vampyr, as when I gave that answer originally they seemed very unconvinced.
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Posted 2012-November-14, 03:53
Vampyr, on 2012-November-13, 20:36, said:
No, it's actually the second person who bid 1NT. I was asked this the other day and told that the answer had been exhaustively researched.
So, someone wrote a PhD thesis on the subject of who is declaring at bridge after an insufficient bid has been accepted? Whenever someone tells me that something has been exhaustively researched I ask for references to publications, preferably from authorities in the field.
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Posted 2012-November-14, 09:46
Trinidad, on 2012-November-14, 03:53, said:
So, someone wrote a PhD thesis on the subject of who is declaring at bridge after an insufficient bid has been accepted? Whenever someone tells me that something has been exhaustively researched I ask for references to publications, preferably from authorities in the field.
Well, I guess I was inclined to believe the person who told me, because it was opposite from my beliefs and what I have witnessed in practice. So I thought that it could not just be made up.
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Posted 2012-November-14, 10:44
Back in the old days on GEnie, in Jerry Pournelle's forum, we used to say "PPOR", which stands for "provide proof or retract". The common analog these days in online gaming forums is "screen shot or it didn't happen". 
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Posted 2012-November-15, 10:50
When we called the director after the auction (unopposed) 1♠-1♦-1♥-1♠ it was the first person to bid the suit that declared with being what was quoted.
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Declarer: The player who, for the side that makes the final bid, first bid the denomination named in the final bid.
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