these computer dealt hands! 7024
#1
Posted 2012-June-14, 08:24
(still learning)
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#2
Posted 2012-June-14, 09:02
The only reason not to open 2♣ is that you don't want your opps to find a cheap sacrifice. But then your alternative is to guess that there is a slam (open 6♠) or there is not a slam (open 4♠). I assume that no one would open 7♠.
I want to try to get some information from partner. Who knows? Maybe 7NT is biddable.
#3
Posted 2012-June-14, 09:09
One option is to give up trying to figure it out and just open 6♠. This has the advantage of suppressing sacrifices in hearts or maybe diamonds.
More scientifically, perhaps I can open 2♣, set spades as trump, ask for keycards, then ask for a king. That should all fit below 6♠, unless some op jumps in with long hearts.
-gwnn
#4
Posted 2012-June-14, 09:26
HA and DK => 7NT
HA, no DK => 7S (unfortunately I guess you don't play specific eight asks , but I'd punt it anyway, making when e.g. partner has short clubs, they lead a heart, or even partner holds 7x of spades and the 8 drops on the first round)
DK, no HA => 7S
neither => 6S
ahydra
#5
Posted 2012-June-14, 09:32
Responder should bid 3N without a 1st round control (not sure if that's standard), and cue the 1st round control otherwise. Over 3N, I'll cue 4C, and hopefully hear a 2nd round control cue in diamonds.
If I hear about either the ace of hearts or the K of diamonds, I'm bidding grand.
#6
Posted 2012-June-14, 10:32
edit:oops dummys 13card was 2♥
This was opened 6♠, making 6 after a trump lead for a 12/38. Most of the field made an easy 7.
I like 4N/5N specfic ace/king ask but I'd live with 2♣.
How do you respond to specific ace ask with 0 aces?
(still learning)
"At last: just calm down, this kind of disrupted boards happens every day in our bridge community. It will always be an inherent part of bridge until we move to a modern platform, and then will we have other hopefully less frequent issues." P Swennson
#8
Posted 2012-June-14, 10:45
jillybean, on 2012-June-14, 10:32, said:
This was opened 6♠, making 6 after a trump lead for a 12/38. Most of the field made an easy 7.
I like 4N/5N specfic ace/king ask but I'd live with 2♣.
How do you respond to specific ace ask with 0 aces?
Normally it's
5C = no aces
5D/H/S = ace of that suit
5NT = club ace [or two aces]
6C = two aces [or club ace]
How does one make 7 on a trump lead, assuming no miracle ♦QJ doubleton? Seems you were unlucky.
ahydra
#9
Posted 2012-June-14, 10:50
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#10
Posted 2012-June-14, 12:03
jillybean, on 2012-June-14, 10:32, said:
Eh, bad luck that they found the best lead.
Even so, there are chances if you run all the trumps immediately. If an op holds 4 clubs without the jack, they are unlikely to see the need to hold them all. The diamonds in dummy look threatening, and both ops might decide to keep high hearts. Or there could be a real squeeze.
-gwnn
#11
Posted 2012-June-14, 12:10
billw55, on 2012-June-14, 12:03, said:
Partner thats holding 3♣ will dump them like they are en fuego. Both will give a heart signal and some present count so good defenders should get this right, assuming that there's a legitimate beat.
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#12
Posted 2012-June-14, 12:16
Phil, on 2012-June-14, 10:50, said:
What lol?
#13
Posted 2012-June-14, 12:37
JLOGIC, on 2012-June-14, 12:16, said:
Well I KNOW its cold if RHO has a diamond picture + four clubs.
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#14
Posted 2012-June-14, 12:45
Phil, on 2012-June-14, 12:37, said:
Why doesn't he just keep 4 clubs, and Hx of diamonds, and LHO keep Hxx of diamonds?
I think the squeeze needs an opponent to have 4 clubs and QJ of diamonds...but it's late here, so I could be equally sleepy.
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#15
Posted 2012-June-14, 12:46
Phil, on 2012-June-14, 12:37, said:
A diamond picture and 4 clubs? RHO can hold Hx of diamonds and 4 clubs while LHO holds Hxx of diamonds and a high heart (and 2 other cards) after the run of 7 spades, preventing either minor from running.
13 tricks are makable if either opponent has 4 diamonds and 4 clubs or QJ/QJx of diamonds and 4 clubs. 13 tricks will also be cold in the very unlikely case that one opponent has AKQ(xxx) of hearts along with the sole guard of a minor. Of course, if one opponent is unlucky enough to hold AKQ(xxx) of hearts, QJ or QJx or any four diamonds, and four clubs, that opp will be tripled to smithereens on the run of the trump.
Edit: Phil points out below that in the end position in the first paragraph 3 rounds of clubs will squeeze LHO in the reds. Very true.
So there are many ways to make 13 tricks. It will be truly unlucky to make less.
Second Edit: I am sure that the missing card from dummy is a club, but it probably makes little difference (assuming it was not a spade).
#16
Posted 2012-June-14, 12:47
BunnyGo, on 2012-June-14, 12:45, said:
I think the squeeze needs an opponent to have 4 clubs and QJ of diamonds...but it's late here, so I could be equally sleepy.
Because in the 6 card ending he is keeping no hearts. LHO has the sole heart guard, so three rounds of clubs squeezes LHO in the reds.
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#17
Posted 2012-June-14, 12:49
ArtK78, on 2012-June-14, 12:46, said:
3 card ending Art, not 4.
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#18
Posted 2012-June-14, 12:49
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#19
Posted 2012-June-14, 13:15
Though I suppose this could increase chances of trump lead on the actual board when I end up in 6s with everyone else.
#20
Posted 2012-June-14, 14:45
Phil, on 2012-June-14, 12:10, said:
I think you are playing in stronger games than I am
I suspect that even advanced players (maybe not experts) will sometimes stumble when negotiating signals and guards in three suits. Anyway, there is nothing else to do but run the spades.
-gwnn