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The spades! Or the clubs?
#1
Posted 2012-April-19, 21:18
MP, all white, partner dealt and you hold:
♠QT7xxx
♥KT
♦J8
♣J86
1♣-1♠
2♣-???
What do you bid?
♠QT7xxx
♥KT
♦J8
♣J86
1♣-1♠
2♣-???
What do you bid?
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
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#3
Posted 2012-April-19, 22:09
easy pass. yes spades score more but even if partner has 2+ of them we would expect more tricks in clubs. if opps compete we can try 2♠ which after passing clearly offers a choice of black suit.
#5
Posted 2012-April-20, 01:06
pass. The biggest upside I see to 2♠ is it might keep them out of their red suit contract - I'm willing to bet we score better in clubs than spades on 70% of hands consistent with this bidding, and equal scoring on another 25% of hands.
Chris Gibson
#6
Posted 2012-April-20, 02:10
Pass
(2S the first round if playing weak jump shifts, but that has pre-emptive value that we've lost now)
p.s. historically, in this sequence 2S used to be played as quite a constructive call; compared to 1D-1S-2C-2S where it was just a weak hand with long spades.
(2S the first round if playing weak jump shifts, but that has pre-emptive value that we've lost now)
p.s. historically, in this sequence 2S used to be played as quite a constructive call; compared to 1D-1S-2C-2S where it was just a weak hand with long spades.
#7
Posted 2012-April-20, 04:57
I'm tempted by 2S at MPs - maybe it makes 110 instead of 90. That spade suit is rather rubbish though.
ahydra
ahydra
#8
Posted 2012-April-20, 05:17
The main point of bidding 2♠ is not which partial is safer or scores more, but to keep opponents form finding their plus score.
Even if 2♠ goes down one or two, it might score quite well.
Expecting to be allowed to play in 2♣ peacefully at all white is a bit naive.
Rainer Herrmann
Even if 2♠ goes down one or two, it might score quite well.
Expecting to be allowed to play in 2♣ peacefully at all white is a bit naive.
Rainer Herrmann
#9
Posted 2012-April-20, 05:43
Pass. Bidding 2S and expecting not to be doubled when it is wrong seems very naive to me.
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#10
Posted 2012-April-20, 06:27
the hog, on 2012-April-20, 05:43, said:
Pass. Bidding 2S and expecting not to be doubled when it is wrong seems very naive to me.
I never said or implied I would stay in 2♠ doubled.
I implied that passing 2♣ is an open invitation to opponents, particularly at all white, to find their red suit fit.
Rainer Herrmann
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