[kgr]

MP's

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What do you bid now?
If you are only allowed to make 1 more bid, what is it then?

[pooltuna]

7NT is not unreasonable

[ArtK78]

 pooltuna, on 2012-April-12, 12:04, said:

7NT is not unreasonable

No? Pray tell what 13 tricks you expect to win opposite AKJxxxxx xx xx x? Relying on the ♠Q to fall is too much for me.

I would bid 6♠. I should be able to make this even against 4-0 spades.

[Phil]

 pooltuna, on 2012-April-12, 12:04, said:

7NT is not unreasonable

I'm going to admit that I hide the responses from certain members.

Occasionally, I click 'view it anyway' just to see if there is any reason why I should unhide. However someone that is reading something in the I/A might come upon the above post and notice 3,800 posts and assume the poster gives some thought behind his responses, which is dangerous.

7N is such an extraordinarily bad call. While your preemptive style matters, I will assume that the OP bids down the line. I would expect any hand with AKxxxxxx and out to open 4♠, as well as a 7-4 or even possibly a 6-6.

The absolute best you can hope for in any number of NT is AKJ9xxxx which gives you a whopping 53% grand. With AKJxxxxxx, partner should be lying about the ♠Q, since a nine card suit isn't expected for a 4♠ opening. When partner does not have the ♠J a grand is hopeless.

[kgr]

 Phil, on 2012-April-12, 12:18, said:

I'm going to admit that I hide the responses from certain members.

Occasionally, I click 'view it anyway' just to see if there is any reason why I should unhide. However someone that is reading something in the I/A might come upon the above post and notice 3,800 posts and assume the poster gives some thought behind his responses, which is dangerous.

7N is such an extraordinarily bad call. While your preemptive style matters, I will assume that the OP bids down the line. I would expect any hand with AKxxxxxx and out to open 4♠, as well as a 7-4 or even possibly a 6-6.

The absolute best you can hope for in any number of NT is AKJ9xxxx which gives you a whopping 53% grand. With AKJxxxxxx, partner should be lying about the ♠Q, since a nine card suit isn't expected for a 4♠ opening. When partner does not have the ♠J a grand is hopeless.

So, 6S for you?

[kenrexford]

There is only one reason to not bid 6♠, other than my post following this one, and that is if you have some really cool specialized tool to ask partner if he preempted with Qxxx (or better) in a minor, and, if so, which minor.

Now, is that possible? Actually, it might be. I won't bother you too much with my theoretical thinking as to how to do this, but I could see some merits to having a tool like that available. For instance, perhaps after any major preempt and 4NT as RKCB, 6♣ or 6♣ should invite a grand in the indicated minor but a small slam in the major otherwise? That might work.



♠AKxxxxx ♥x ♦x ♣Qxxx

4♠-P-4NT-P-

5♥-P-6♣-P-

7♣



4♠-P-4NT-P-

5♥-P-6♦-P-

6♠





♠AKxxxxx ♥x ♦Qxxx ♣x


4♠-P-4NT-P-

5♥-P-6♣-P-

6♦-P-7♦



Stuff like that. That might seem like a bit much, though.

[kenrexford]

On this hand, there might also be some reason at MP to bid 5NT. COntextually, this seems like it is asking for specific Queens, as with AK-K, the hand might be too good for a 4♠ opening. If partner shows a specific minor Queen, you might try 6NT, hoping to not get a heart lead, or to have spade come in.

If 5NT would ask for a specific King anyway, and if that is possible, then I see no reason to not ask. I mean, if partner has AKxxxxx-Kx-xx-xx for some reason, then 6NT seems very good.

[MrAce]

 Phil, on 2012-April-12, 12:18, said:

When partner does not have the ♠J a grand is hopeless.

Not hopeless when pd has AKxxxxxx, but poor odds of course.

 kgr, on 2012-April-12, 12:29, said:

So, 6S for you?

You have a ♠ fit* and and a lot of hcp. Despite the fact that you have 20 hcp, your main source of tricks is still spade suit and pd said he is missing Q. I think you should bid 6♠. Thats what i would do.

[Phil]

 kenrexford, on 2012-April-12, 12:46, said:

If 5NT would ask for a specific King anyway, and if that is possible, then I see no reason to not ask. I mean, if partner has AKxxxxx-Kx-xx-xx for some reason, then 6NT seems very good.

After preempts, I'm perfectly fine asking for 2nd round controls with 5N.

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For instance, perhaps after any major preempt and 4NT as RKCB, 6♣ or 6♣ should invite a grand in the indicated minor but a small slam in the major otherwise? That might work.

So I can't ask for key cards and signoff in 6♣ with a hand like xx AK x AKQJxxxx?

[kenrexford]

 Phil, on 2012-April-12, 14:20, said:

So I can't ask for key cards and signoff in 6♣ with a hand like xx AK x AKQJxxxx?

That is correct.

[kgr]

I remember that the bidding was in fact:
4S-4NT
5NT-?
5NT=2 aces of 5 and a void.
How do you continue now?

Spoiler

If you would bid 6C to ask the void then the answer is 6H=H void

[kenrexford]

 kgr, on 2012-April-13, 08:45, said:

I remember that the bidding was in fact:
4S-4NT
5NT-?
5NT=2 aces of 5 and a void.
How do you continue now?

Spoiler

If you would bid 6C to ask the void then the answer is 6H=H void

With a void he is even more likely to have a 4-card minor. Sucks to have no methods.

[rmnka447]

6 ♠ -- you have 5 cover cards for partner's expected 5 cards outside the ♠ suit.