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Posted 2012-April-10, 11:19



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Posted 2012-April-10, 11:30

You have clubs. They did not bid clubs. So, maybe Two Clubs works.
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Posted 2012-April-10, 11:38

I would bid 2s. It's now or never for the spades, but I might get back to clubs after 2s.
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Posted 2012-April-10, 11:39

Yup 2♠
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Posted 2012-April-10, 12:05

I haven't had good experiences with overcalling in responder's suit with only five. To be precise, once I went for 500 on a partscore board, and once I talked them out of playing in four of the suit.

I would overcall 2♣, then 2♠ on the next round.
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Posted 2012-April-10, 12:44

2 of a black suit. I think spades is right, but I would not quibble with anyone interested in bidding clubs.

However, as lalldonn says, this is your last chance to bid spades naturally. So if you choose to bid clubs, you can forget about playing in spades.
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Posted 2012-April-10, 13:18

View PostArtK78, on 2012-April-10, 12:44, said:

However, as lalldonn says, this is your last chance to bid spades naturally. So if you choose to bid clubs, you can forget about playing in spades.


Not really, but partner isn't apt to play you for better spades if you do.

Still, I prefer 2♣. I'm scared of getting tapped playing spades.
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Posted 2012-April-10, 14:16

View PostPhil, on 2012-April-10, 13:18, said:

Still, I prefer 2♣. I'm scared of getting tapped playing spades.

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Posted 2012-April-10, 14:18

View PostArtK78, on 2012-April-10, 12:44, said:

However, as phil_20686 says, this is your last chance to bid spades naturally. So if you choose to bid clubs, you can forget about playing in spades.

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Posted 2012-April-10, 14:29

View Postlalldonn, on 2012-April-10, 14:18, said:

FYP

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Posted 2012-April-10, 15:43

I had the hand and considered all of pass, 2C and 2S. I decided pass was a bit silly, but I think 2 of either black suit could be right. It might depend a bit on how light RHO likes to respond.

p.s. luckily, on the actual hand, it doesn't matter which of 2C and 2S you choose. Pass isn't very effective.
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Posted 2012-April-10, 16:27

1♦-P-1♠-2♣

2♦-P-P-2♠



If anyone plays that 2♠ as some sort of artificial cuebid, you need help. For that matter, not expecting 5-5 is a bit bizarre to me, but at least it makes more sense than "cannot be bid naturally again."
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Posted 2012-April-11, 06:55

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2012-April-10, 15:43, said:

I had the hand and considered all of pass, 2C and 2S. I decided pass was a bit silly, but I think 2 of either black suit could be right. It might depend a bit on how light RHO likes to respond.

p.s. luckily, on the actual hand, it doesn't matter which of 2C and 2S you choose. Pass isn't very effective.


At the table I chose pass, then doubled South's 2♦ rebid. We played in 3♥, which wasn't a success. The full hand:



I think 2♠ is probably best, but I'm not certain my partner would take it as natural.
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Posted 2012-April-11, 09:00

2C

We play 2S as natural, but I would just bid the suit, that has the highes chance to
find a fit with partner.

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