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Posted 2012-March-28, 05:49
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2012-March-28, 05:55
3♥ , natural, weakish.
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Posted 2012-March-28, 06:05
With ATxx I dont mind passing. Will bid hearts later.
I also think its ok to bid 2H, but the hand feels like it could be a misfit whenyou have spade void and so many diamonds so not keen to overstate my values.
I also think its ok to bid 2H, but the hand feels like it could be a misfit whenyou have spade void and so many diamonds so not keen to overstate my values.
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Posted 2012-March-28, 08:11
3♥ Bid the hearts before partner can bid 3♠
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Posted 2012-March-28, 09:31
I would have expected 3♥ to be seen, almost universally in this forum, as fit-showing.
I would pass, because the odds of this hand being passed out are slim and, if the hand is passed out, we probably can't make much....diamonds might be our only 7 card fit
I would pass, because the odds of this hand being passed out are slim and, if the hand is passed out, we probably can't make much....diamonds might be our only 7 card fit
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Posted 2012-March-28, 09:33
mikeh, on 2012-March-28, 09:31, said:
diamonds might be our only 7 card fit
Maybe you should rethink that suggestion? (There's a clue in the title of the thread.)
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-March-28, 10:49
gnasher, on 2012-March-28, 09:33, said:
Maybe you should rethink that suggestion? (There's a clue in the title of the thread.)
I was exaggerating for effect...plus I hadn't finished my coffee
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Posted 2012-March-28, 19:10
I'd X followed by a ♥ bid, if possible (not if partner bids 4♠, probably not over opps 5♣)
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Posted 2012-March-28, 19:16
I would bid 3♥ if systemic and don't agree that fit showing is anywhere near universal. Otherwise I would bid 2♥ and rebid 3♥.
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Posted 2012-March-29, 00:07
I'd pass, 3♥ is fit showing for me.
Perhaps DBL and then bidding ♥ is my alternative, which shows long ♥ and not good enough to start 2♥, since i dont expect raise from opponents and since i dont expect pd to convert it to penalty due to my ♦ holding, this can actually go smoothly.
Perhaps DBL and then bidding ♥ is my alternative, which shows long ♥ and not good enough to start 2♥, since i dont expect raise from opponents and since i dont expect pd to convert it to penalty due to my ♦ holding, this can actually go smoothly.
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Posted 2012-March-29, 00:57
MrAce, on 2012-March-29, 00:07, said:
I'd pass, 3♥ is fit showing for me.
Perhaps DBL and then bidding ♥ is my alternative, which shows long ♥ and not good enough to start 2♥, since i dont expect raise from opponents and since i dont expect pd to convert it to penalty due to my ♦ holding, this can actually go smoothly.
Perhaps DBL and then bidding ♥ is my alternative, which shows long ♥ and not good enough to start 2♥, since i dont expect raise from opponents and since i dont expect pd to convert it to penalty due to my ♦ holding, this can actually go smoothly.
I would have suggested X followed by hearts also. No other takers?
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Posted 2012-March-29, 01:43
I would bid 3H, which I play as about 7-9 pts with 6+ hearts. I don't like playing this jump as support, I think natural meanings are more frequent and also very useful. My second choice is 2H, and my third choice is pass.
It's true that we are extremely light for 2H. However, if we aren't allowed to bid 3H then the only real alternatives are pass and 4H. The suit doesn't seem good enough for 4H, and there is a lot to be said for bidding a 7-card heart suit before people start bidding spades.
I would never double with 7 hearts and 0 spades. If I do that the bidding will surely come back to me with 4S, the only question is whether partner or an opponent is the first to bid it.
It's true that we are extremely light for 2H. However, if we aren't allowed to bid 3H then the only real alternatives are pass and 4H. The suit doesn't seem good enough for 4H, and there is a lot to be said for bidding a 7-card heart suit before people start bidding spades.
I would never double with 7 hearts and 0 spades. If I do that the bidding will surely come back to me with 4S, the only question is whether partner or an opponent is the first to bid it.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2012-March-29, 02:43
double is ridicoulous, you will get a lot of spades from partner at a high level, you want to slow him down, not encourage.
I play 3♥ as natural forcing, but that's because I play NFBs, either 2♥ or 3♥ should show weak (some range between 6 and 9) with hearts. Some transfer could also work if you want.
I play 3♥ as natural forcing, but that's because I play NFBs, either 2♥ or 3♥ should show weak (some range between 6 and 9) with hearts. Some transfer could also work if you want.
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