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Posted 2012-February-01, 18:38


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Posted 2012-February-01, 18:50

6♥

Partner says he has BOTH 4 card Majors.
Given my solid ♠ and the ♥ Q J , he must have the two top ♥honors.

I'll keep my 5 card ♠ suit to use for a discard.
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Posted 2012-February-02, 08:44

6♠. It's good odds pard will have ♥AK and ♦K for his bid. Spades should survive a 5-0 break of the hearts (unless RHO lightner-doubles this lol).
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Posted 2012-February-02, 09:16

5 ♥

If I play partner for AK of ♥ AND the King of ♦ I would bid 6 NT to make club ruffs and lightner doubles impossible.
But I would not play him for such a good hand.

And I am a little afraid of club ruffs anyway, but I have no bid that does my hand justice. I would like to bid 5 ♥ as inviting to six, but who should understand that this does not aks for a control in clubs? Anyway, that is my choice.
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Posted 2012-February-02, 11:22

View PostCodo, on 2012-February-02, 09:16, said:

5 ♥

If I play partner for AK of ♥ AND the King of ♦ I would bid 6 NT to make club ruffs and lightner doubles impossible.
But I would not play him for such a good hand.

And I am a little afraid of club ruffs anyway, but I have no bid that does my hand justice. I would like to bid 5 ♥ as inviting to six, but who should understand that this does not aks for a control in clubs? Anyway, that is my choice.



5♥ is asking pd to bid slam if he has ♣ stopper i am afraid.
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Posted 2012-February-02, 11:58

View Postwank, on 2012-February-01, 18:38, said:




Wouldnt it be great if I had some way to ask about all six keycards. Oh wait. I do.
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Posted 2012-February-02, 22:17

Is it clear that 4♣ shows the majors? It feels to me like it's just offering two places to play, ie could have 6 diamonds and a 4 card major. I would start with 5♣.
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Posted 2012-February-03, 00:21

View Postsasioc, on 2012-February-02, 22:17, said:

Is it clear that 4♣ shows the majors? It feels to me like it's just offering two places to play, ie could have 6 diamonds and a 4 card major. I would start with 5♣.


Agree. Even (3D)--X--(P)--4D can be 5c and a 4M. Choosing the right game is always more important than slam try.

In this case, over 4C without special agreement i think these are natural responses.

4D= i like D
---4H = both M
---4S = 4S+5D not slammish
---4Nt rkc in D
---5C light slam try in D
---5D to play

4H= I like H
----4S= S+D
----4NT = rkc in H
----5C asking for C control
----5D D+S slam try
----5H slam try in H

4S = im 5332/5341/ and im willing to play 4S/5D
-----4Nt rkc in S
-----5C slam try D+H
-----5D D+H

IMO With both M slammish responder need to bid 4Nt(Pick-A-Suit) not 4C
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Posted 2012-February-03, 01:56

View Postsasioc, on 2012-February-02, 22:17, said:

Is it clear that 4♣ shows the majors?



Definetely not for me.
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Posted 2012-February-03, 03:00

I agree that 4♣ can be any two suits. By analogy with other sequences, I think 5♣ is a slam try with club control and 4NT is a slam try without.

Driving slam opposite a passed hand seems excessive. Partner's bidding won't always be based on aces and kings, and he is allowed to stretch slightly to make sure of reaching the right strain. xx AKxx Qxxxx xx and xxxx AKxx Qxx xx are normal 4♣ bids. I'd bid 5♣.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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