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gordontd, on 2011-December-15, 07:33, said:
It's the card that's proscribed, not the methods.
No the card is prescribed. Encrypted leads are proscribed. One means recommended, the other means forbidden.
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Posted 2012-January-31, 06:24
No the card is prescribed. Encrypted leads are proscribed. One means recommended, the other means forbidden.
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phil_20686, on 2012-January-31, 06:24, said:
No the card is prescribed. Encrypted leads are proscribed. One means recommended, the other means forbidden.
I suggest you look again, and consider which card was being talked about. Start with post 8 and you might get an idea of the full conversation.
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Statto, on 2012-January-31, 02:39, said:
And to hell with announcements 
Just to qualify that point: bidding boxes were I think introduced to prevent UI from inflexions in the way the bids were stated, or the hardness of the knock on the table for an alert. Announcements seem to reintroduce the possibility of dodgy UI, and go against the reason for bidding boxes. If there were a set of cards in the bidding box for the various possible announcements (along with the alert card), that would be fine, but there aren't.
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Statto, on 2012-February-01, 22:29, said:
If there were a set of cards in the bidding box for the various possible announcements (along with the alert card), that would be fine, but there aren't.
You mean like
16-18
15-17
15-18
14-16
14(+)-17
14-17(-)
13-15
12-15
11(+)-15
12-14
11-14
11-13
10-12
etc.?
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Posted 2012-February-02, 04:01
Statto, on 2012-February-01, 22:29, said:
Just to qualify that point: bidding boxes were I think introduced to prevent UI from inflexions in the way the bids were stated, or the hardness of the knock on the table for an alert. Announcements seem to reintroduce the possibility of dodgy UI, and go against the reason for bidding boxes. If there were a set of cards in the bidding box for the various possible announcements (along with the alert card), that would be fine, but there aren't.
Do you find that there is a lot of UI transmitted through announcements? I find that they are neutral, and for the most part have to do with really basic parts of the bidding system -- things that are unlikely to have been forgotten. There are exceptions, though, like variable NT, but a card with the range would not be an improvement.
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