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What to open playing Precision

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Posted 2011-November-08, 11:23

All red, team match, After two passes what would you open with:

Jx
AKTx
AQ6xx
xx

1 is 16+, 1 at least two cards 11-15, 1NT: 13-15.

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Posted 2011-November-08, 11:38

Close btw 1 and 1NT.
If I call 1, I can reverse into 2 over the expected 1.
With my values concentrated in the reds that would be my preferred start, the 6 made me do it :)
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Posted 2011-November-08, 13:05

I like my precision reverses to be 5=6 hands rather than just maximum values, but if your agreements permit I prefer 1...2 to opening 1N or 1...2.

I will point out that if you're more conservative and willing to pass your 11-12 balanced hands so 13-15 NT is your only balanced opener, you can play a nice swap with the "extra" 1N rebid:

1-1M-1N shows a 2 rebid (just diamonds), effectively forcing
1-1-2 shows 4 & 5+ , non forcing
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Posted 2011-November-08, 21:31

I'd open 1nt. When in doubt, I like bidding nt. And in third I think it preempts the easy RHO 1 call and puts partner into an easy nt auction.
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Posted 2011-November-08, 23:08

Is it in the range? Yes
Is it a semi bal/balanced hand? Yes
Does this qualify for a 1NT opening? Yes
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Posted 2011-November-09, 03:28

The 2 weak doubletons aren't great for opening 1NT. But I'd probably do it anyway. Either I open 1 and rebid 2 (1NT shows a much weaker hand), or I open 1NT and bid relax.
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Posted 2011-November-09, 10:37

1 obvio. But since that isn't an option, I would open 1NT. Vote up with Rob's post; another possibility is that one can also play 1NT as 12-15 if you don't mind having the extra point. This may make constructive bidding after 1NT a little more difficult, but the trade-off is big. It increases the frequency of your 1NT opening which will allow you to put more pressure on the opponents. 1 can now deny possession of a balanced hand which will help competitive bidding and the "transfer" re-bids by opener can be used to handle hands like these where one can open 1 and re-bid 2 to show 5+ and 4 just as Rob suggested. Just have to pass balanced 11 counts instead of opening them.
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Posted 2011-November-09, 11:37

View Postolien, on 2011-November-09, 10:37, said:

1 obvio. But since that isn't an option, I would open 1NT. Vote up with Rob's post; another possibility is that one can also play 1NT as 12-15 if you don't mind having the extra point. This may make constructive bidding after 1NT a little more difficult, but the trade-off is big. It increases the frequency of your 1NT opening which will allow you to put more pressure on the opponents. 1 can now deny possession of a balanced hand which will help competitive bidding and the "transfer" re-bids by opener can be used to handle hands like these where one can open 1 and re-bid 2 to show 5+ and 4 just as Rob suggested. Just have to pass balanced 11 counts instead of opening them.

This is exactly what we play when Vul - 12(+) to 15 NT and 1 4+. Works great. At white, we still play 2+ 1 so we can open a 10-12 NT.
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Posted 2011-November-09, 15:27

1N -- gets the point range and general shape across and denies them the cheap 1...
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Posted 2011-November-09, 15:52

My first option, like Owen, is 1. I play 1M could only be in 3rd/4th seat, and that suit is awesome. With the opponents likely to be bidding Spades, it's easier to find a fit; partner shouldn't bury us as a passed hand. 2nd option is 1NT, we can run to Diamonds if they try doubling for penalty.
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Posted 2011-November-10, 02:33

Didn't notice it was 3rd seat, in that case I definitely prefer 1.
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Posted 2011-November-10, 08:34

If it's in 3rd, I think a "preemptive" 1NT is the best bid :)
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