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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2011-September-24, 00:37



Your lead & why?
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Posted 2011-September-24, 04:39

Spade, I would start with the King.

If p has the jack, it does not matter, if you start with the
K or a low one, but it matters, if partner has the 10, it can.

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Posted 2011-September-24, 06:23

Yep SK, spades seem like my best way to beat the hand. I suppose GIB would lead a heart here, but that is too weird to me!
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Posted 2011-September-24, 06:51

Low club. It's least likely to cost a trick and you're not likely to beat the hand anyway.

It's matchpoints, right?
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Posted 2011-September-24, 09:30

View PostVM1973, on 2011-September-24, 06:51, said:

Low club. It's least likely to cost a trick and you're not likely to beat the hand anyway.

It's matchpoints, right?

Yes MP. In the good, old forum software it was smart enough to prompt you to specify scoring.
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Posted 2011-September-24, 09:54

South usually has a minor (or both) or a very flat hand.

In case of the former I'm leading a to set up my quickest tricks while I can get in in time to use them.

K here, without the 9 a low one.
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Posted 2011-September-24, 11:34

View Postggwhiz, on 2011-September-24, 09:54, said:

South usually has a minor (or both) or a very flat hand.

In case of the former I'm leading a to set up my quickest tricks while I can get in in time to use them.

K here, without the 9 a low one.

I don't see why declarer couldn't hold 3-5-3-2 shape. That shape is more consistent with my hand than any other shape.
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Posted 2011-September-24, 17:00

View PostVM1973, on 2011-September-24, 11:34, said:

I don't see why declarer couldn't hold 3-5-3-2 shape. That shape is more consistent with my hand than any other shape.


I was talking about responders most likely shape. We don't know what declarer has beyond a slight probabilty of some kind of 4-4-3-2 in any order and won't find out anytime soon.
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Posted 2011-September-24, 17:02

View Postjillybean, on 2011-September-24, 00:37, said:



Your lead & why?

Partner has at most 4 or 5 hcp. Wouldn't it be nice if he had the A-3rd or 4th.

I'm leading the 2 .
Hopefully, we can take 4 spade tricks right off the bat...exit a and then wait for one of my minor Queens for the setting trick.

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Posted 2011-September-24, 18:54

Q for attitude.
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Posted 2011-September-24, 18:59

K of S for me also for the reasons stated above.
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Posted 2011-September-24, 19:17

K ...because there was no major suit search in the bidding [i.e. S doesn't have one or is 4333] if he does you are probably hosed because you are looking at a 28-30 HCP 3NT. Partner probably has at most one entry and you want it to be as effective as possible when it comes so you try to place the 9 in a promotable position.
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Posted 2011-September-25, 01:31

Q since K is the strong lead for us and asks pd to unblock/count while A or Q is fot attitude.
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Posted 2011-September-25, 02:36

View PostP_Marlowe, on 2011-September-24, 04:39, said:

Spade, I would start with the King.

If p has the jack, it does not matter, if you start with the
K or a low one, but it matters, if partner has the 10, it can.

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If p has the J it could very well matter in my partnership, because he may play the J under the K at trick 1 expecting me to hold the 10.
Even so, perhaps it is still a risk worth taking.

Interesting that no-one has suggested leading a Heart, to try to find partner's suit without giving anything away. Not that I am suggesting it, but I would have expected a proportion to do so. Personally I don't have a strong opinion on it.
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Posted 2011-September-25, 14:06

View Post1eyedjack, on 2011-September-25, 02:36, said:


Interesting that no-one has suggested leading a Heart, to try to find partner's suit without giving anything away. Not that I am suggesting it, but I would have expected a proportion to do so. Personally I don't have a strong opinion on it.


I would lead a with a real ratbag but don't expect partner to have any entries on this one.
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