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#1
Posted 2011-September-19, 23:18
AKQJ 76432 void AKQ5
everybody red, imps
Firstly: what do you open?
I chose to honour length over strength with 1♥, and LHO bids 2♦. Partner passes and a weak player on your right bids 3♣.
What do you bid?
I think double seems clear.
Partner bids 3♥
What is your thinking now, and what does that lead you to call?
#2
Posted 2011-September-19, 23:29
Expect to be tapped in my 5-2 fit with zero help from the dummy. More likely they get 5 tricks than only 3.
#3
Posted 2011-September-20, 01:53
To make 4♥, we'll need the trumps 3-2, and we'll need either a heart winner or a third-round diamond control. We may need to arrange a club ruff in dummy too, and we'll need to avoid a club ruff by the short-trump hand.
A 3-2 break doesn't seem all that likely. The opponents have done a lot of bidding, one of them on a jack-high suit. Furthermore, if 4♥ goes down it won't just go one down - this is the sort of deal where you go for 800.
I'd pass.
#4
Posted 2011-September-20, 02:31
Another interesting strain is spades. To sum it all lets involve partner and bid 3♠ now.
opening 1♣ might have worked a tad better.
#5
Posted 2011-September-20, 03:19
Over pard's 3H I'd pass. I need some shape in pard to make game and I don't feel like he has it.
This post has been edited by whereagles: 2011-September-20, 10:14
#7
Posted 2011-September-20, 04:32
#8
Posted 2011-September-20, 05:01
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#9
Posted 2011-September-20, 06:27
#11
Posted 2011-September-20, 10:09
xxxx Qxx Jxxxx x. If trump is 4-1 or they lead trumps, you will often go down.
mikeh, on 2011-September-19, 23:18, said:
AKQJ 76432 void AKQ5
everybody red, imps
Firstly: what do you open?
I chose to honour length over strength with 1♥, and LHO bids 2♦. Partner passes and a weak player on your right bids 3♣.
What do you bid?
I think double seems clear.
Partner bids 3♥
What is your thinking now, and what does that lead you to call?
#12
Posted 2011-September-20, 10:27
xxhong, on 2011-September-20, 10:09, said:
xxxx Qxx Jxxxx x. If trump is 4-1 or they lead trumps, you will often go down.
OP stated that, to him, double was "clear"; but he did not define it as penalty. What would he do with reversed minors, for instance? I hope North has the example hand xxhong showed, and certainly would not want to be in spades opposite that, so the conclusion of "pass" still seems right regardless of the minor quibble about whether double was "penalty".
#13
Posted 2011-September-20, 11:56
So I assumed that partner would see this as penalty.
The problem, from his perspective, is that if this is penalty, what major suit holdings does he need to bid 3♠ and not 3♥? This is relevant to my 3rd csll.....if he could have long spades, rather than long diamonds, I should be thinking about 3♠ over 3♥, even tho that is the sort of action that, on a bad day, leads to a horrific result.
#14
Posted 2011-September-20, 18:05
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Why is it more likely that you'll hold AKQJ xxxxx - AKQx than AKQJ KQxxx - Axxx? When we bid hearts and they bid clubs, they tend to have their values in clubs, not hearts. There's also the question of the game bonus which we get for 4♠= but not for 3♣x-1.
#15
Posted 2011-September-20, 20:25
#16
Posted 2011-September-21, 02:05
#17
Posted 2011-September-21, 02:09
#18
Posted 2011-September-21, 14:06
mikeh, on 2011-September-19, 23:18, said:
AKQJ 76432 void AKQ5
everybody red, imps
Firstly: what do you open?
I chose to honour length over strength with 1♥, and LHO bids 2♦. Partner passes and a weak player on your right bids 3♣.
What do you bid?
I think double seems clear.
Partner bids 3♥
What is your thinking now, and what does that lead you to call?
Well X is an option. What would 3♦ show? Is it an ask for 3NT with a ♦ stopper? If so that isn't the worst contract you'll ever be in!
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