[Fluffy]

♠J72
♥J63
♦AKQ
♣J854

MPs, all vul, partner deals

1♦-(1♥)-??

double shows 4 spades today :/

[mike777]

2d

[gnasher]

1NT. I was going to bid 2♣, but then I started trying to construct balanced 14-counts opposite which we'd miss game, and I couldn't think of many.

[mikeh]

This is close to an idea (not my invention) that I raised on a thread a few weeks back...passing, intending to cue bid if partner reopens. But I don't like the shape nor the plethora of jacks, so I'll content myself with what only seems like an underbid...1N.

[pooltuna]

2♥

[nige1]

Fluffy, on 2010-December-30, 15:27, said:

♠J72 ♥J63 ♦AKQ ♣J854 MPs, all vul, partner deals
1♦-(1♥)-??
double shows 4 spades today :/

IMO 2♣ = 10, 2♦ (if still inverted) = 8, 2♥ (UCB) = 7, _X = 4, 1N = 3,
1N is superficially attractive but it's an underbid. Worse, if partner has ♥Ax or ♥Kxx and we belong in no-trump, that contract is probably better played by partner.

[the hog]

Why can't I double? Ok, 2C.

[JLOGIC]

Agree with 1N

[Fluffy]

If you bid 1NT it will go like this:

1♦-(1♥)-1NT-(ps)
ps-(2♣)- X - (2♠)
ps-(ps)- ??

[whereagles]

Come on, pard is unlimited. There's no reason to be pessimistic and mastermind a 1NT bid. A bid which is likely to be passed out if pard has a balanced 13-14 (very possible).

Just bid your hand: 2♥. If pard has the 12-14 NT he'll bid 2/3NT, and if he's unbalanced with 5+ diamonds our support is more than adequate.

Look at the mess you caused by bidding 1NT

[Fluffy]

whereagles, on 2010-December-31, 05:49, said:

There's no reason to be pessimistic and mastermind a 1NT bid.

This looks like a proper evaluation more than an underbid or mastermind, mike, andy and justin can hardly be all wrong on the same deal, and I find it very conforting that they opted for the same bid as me

[mike777]

I can understand 1nt that was my close secondchoice. I just picked 2d(less than invite) to tell pard my bestsuit.
2h for me would show a much better hand, not this junk. I mean pard can often open 1d on less than 12 and I dont assume she will have 14 or more.

what happens over 2d pls?

[nige1]

Fluffy, on 2010-December-31, 05:35, said:

If you bid 1NT it will go like this:
1♦-(1♥)-1NT-(ps)
ps-(2♣)- X - (2♠)
ps-(ps)- ??

Now, 3♦ = 10, 2N = 9, _X = 8, _P = 7.

[Fluffy]

mike777, on 2010-December-31, 06:54, said:

I can understand 1nt that was my close secondchoice. I just picked 2d(less than invite) to tell pard my bestsuit.
2h for me would show a much better hand, not this junk. I mean pard can often open 1d on less than 12 and I dont assume she will have 14 or more.

what happens over 2d pls?

partner will bid a negative 3♦

[gnasher]

Fluffy, on 2010-December-31, 05:35, said:

If you bid 1NT it will go like this:

1♦-(1♥)-1NT-(ps)
ps-(2♣)- X - (2♠)
ps-(ps)- ??

I'd double 2♠, without much conviction. Partner knows I have only three, so he won't leave it in with a singleton. I hope he leads a trump.

[whereagles]

Fluffy, on 2010-December-31, 06:37, said:

This looks like a proper evaluation more than an underbid or mastermind, mike, andy and justin can hardly be all wrong on the same deal, and I find it very conforting that they opted for the same bid as me

I'm used to go against the world and be right, Galileo style

[Siegmund]

I will settle for an unimaginative 2C on the first round. Don't like 1NT with 3 lies (extra hcp, both majors unstopped), and think a cuebid on a 9-loser hand and no guaranteed fit is a shocking overbid.

[nigel_k]

Unsupported jacks are very bad, AKQ tight is very bad, holding in opponents suit is bad as well. Just an awful hand. If I was a good player of course I would never downgrade but this looks like at least a two point downgrade to me. Kaplan/Rubens rates it a 9.2.

[Phil]

1N is not only right, it is correct.

Anything else is for the point counting wraiths of the bridge world.

[Phil]

whereagles, on 2010-December-31, 11:48, said:

I'm used to go against the world and be right, Galileo style

And you decided that winning was more important than being a pioneer?