How common is Gambling 3NT these days?
#21
Posted 2010-December-29, 14:09
#22
Posted 2010-December-29, 16:05
#23
Posted 2010-December-29, 17:13
jh51's argument still applies to some extent, though - there's some value in excluding this hand type from 1m-1x;2m.
#24
Posted 2010-December-30, 15:20
Free, on 2010-December-23, 08:39, said:
Just for the record, I meant on THIS hand. Playing gambling 3NT in a pickup partnership is probably best, but that doesn't mean I'd open 3NT on the hand given above.
Gambling 3NT is a gamble, if partner holds 3 Aces it's no longer a gamble, I know that. But with this hand, lots of the time 5♦ will be a lot safer (no need to gamble), or any NT contract (rightsided or not) may provide an easy 12 tricks. However, responder will only count on 7 tricks, not 8, so how can he accurately judge what the hand is worth (with AK, A and A he won't bid slam)? I'm sure most don't have an asking bid to know how long the minor is, most can ask about a shortness. But then which one should we show...
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#25
Posted 2010-December-31, 02:33
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Personally I prefer 3NT as Namyats and 4m natural.
#26
Posted 2010-December-31, 09:16
I believe what you're suggesting is called (in this country, at least) Kantar 3NT. I agree that it's better than Namyats. Unfortunately, if I'm not mistaken, in North America it's a Mid-Chart convention.
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#27
Posted 2011-January-01, 09:46
3nt - normal 4th level pree on minor . (Now we are able to play this 3nt which cld've been missed + this is nearly as preemptive as 4m) Can have side values or less than AQ AK - after x we just bid our suit without those top honours
2s - either m weaker than 3m openning . 6 crd m in some positions etc... or std gambling 3nt.
Now 2nt GF or just good siding opposite gambling
2s-2nt-3c/d nat 3h/s mb some 2 suiter both m 3nt is "gambling"
#28
Posted 2011-January-01, 10:00
Top level experts are starting to prefer better uses of the 3NT opening, such as world champ Fred who plays "3NT Opening bid in 1st/2nd is a preempt with at least 6-5 in the majors."
Some have tried 3NT with a solid/semi-solid major, the idea being 3NT would not be the final landing place.
My fav is a version of 3NT "to play", which produced a very long BBO thread some years ago - HNY all!
#29
Posted 2011-January-03, 02:04
#30
Posted 2011-January-03, 02:08
JLOGIC, on 2011-January-03, 02:04, said:
What other uses do you have for 3N?
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#31
Posted 2011-January-03, 04:27
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With an unpassed partner I think this is not a very constructive way to bid a good hand that might produce a slam in a minor.
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I have a strong conviction that a 2+♠ opening should show ♠ in some variation. The pre-emptive effect of the master suit should not be discarded lightly.
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This doesn't come up much either, but as Justin said, should it? It's just nice that if you have what would be a 5M opening pre-empt, that you have some way to show it before committing to the 5-level when 4M is your optimal contract. By the way if you play this, I like a 5M opening to show two tricks more than a 4M opening bid.
The one try at a 5M opening bid that I saw does not qualify:
This hand is too strong for a preempt, even though it might qualify for a vuln. 5M opening bid with 3 losers.
Fred may have a fond memory of this one
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#32
Posted 2011-January-03, 06:57
MARNICk, on 2011-January-01, 09:46, said:
3nt - normal 4th level pree on minor . (Now we are able to play this 3nt which cld've been missed + this is nearly as preemptive as 4m) Can have side values or less than AQ AK - after x we just bid our suit without those top honours
2s - either m weaker than 3m openning . 6 crd m in some positions etc... or std gambling 3nt.
Now 2nt GF or just good siding opposite gambling
2s-2nt-3c/d nat 3h/s mb some 2 suiter both m 3nt is "gambling"
By the way, I would like to suggest a really novel use for your 2♠ opening. 4-10 points with 6 (or 5 very good) spades, no side suit necessary. Try it, it's very effective.
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#33
Posted 2011-January-04, 04:12
#34
Posted 2011-January-04, 04:49
mgoetze, on 2011-January-03, 06:57, said:
hunting + votes again?
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#35
Posted 2011-January-04, 05:01
gwnn, on 2011-January-04, 04:49, said:
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Yeah that han guy is getting too close for comfort. Wish I had come up with his post on LTC.
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#36
Posted 2015-November-06, 07:11
1eyedjack, on 2010-December-23, 13:30, said:
Standard lead vs g3nt passed out is "the highest card in your hand"
#37
Posted 2015-November-06, 07:25
dboxley, on 2015-November-06, 07:11, said:
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#38
Posted 2015-November-06, 07:41
mgoetze, on 2015-November-06, 07:25, said:
Obviously an attempt to win the Necro of the Year award for the end of year Posties.
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#39
Posted 2015-November-06, 10:20
Zelandakh, on 2015-November-06, 07:41, said:
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There seems to be a lot of it going around.
I play 3NT as South African Texas in a Major with a few partners, gambling with most others, and am fairly indifferent about which one. I am happy to defer to my partner on either of these or even Baby Blackwood or broken minor or whatever they want to play.
#40
Posted 2015-November-06, 11:12