[InTime]

Scoring: IMP

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Playing 2/1 and following the believers of not opening 2♣ with a two-suited hand, the bidding went as follows:
West. . . North . . . East . . . South
Pass . . . Pass . . . .Pass . . . 1S
Pass . . . 1NT . . . . 2H . . . . . ?

If East would have passed, 3♦ would be an easy 100% forcing bid.
However, after the 2♥ from East, is 3♦ still regarded as 100% forcing?
If not, what is a 100% forcing bid?
Regards

[pooltuna]

InTime, on Jun 26 2010, 09:42 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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Playing 2/1 and following the believers of not opening 2♣ with a two-suited hand, the bidding went as follows:
West. . . North . . . East . . . South
Pass . . . Pass . . . .Pass . . . 1S
Pass . . . 1NT . . . . 2H . . . . . ?

If East would have passed, 3♦ would be an easy 100% forcing bid.
However, after the 2♥ from East, is 3♦ still regarded as 100% forcing?
If not, what is a 100% forcing bid?
Regards

IMV given IMPS; 3♦ strikes me as forcing

[gnasher]

For me, 3♦ would be non-forcing. The only available forcing actions are 3♥, 4♦, or double followed by 3♦. I'd bid 3♥.

[ONEferBRID]

3D should be forcing ( new suit at the 3-level by an unpassed partner in a competitive auction ).

However, I like the 4H!-jump cue self-splinter for Sp with this big hand.

[helene_t]

This came up in the most recent IMP magazine. A couple of panel members play 3♦ as forcing but most agree with Gnasher.

[MFA]

I have a very strong preference for 3♦ being NF. So important to be able to introduce new suits without fearing that the bidding must go on forever. Imps or mp. A decent 5-5 should bid 3♦. The actual rare monster hand is then a problem but only a small one. I'd try 3♥ but 4♦ is also possible.

[Fluffy]

3♦ non forcing, I don't see the problem, easy 4♦

[Phil]

3♦ shows a good hand, but is NF.

4♦ is forcing (and not an auto splinter of something odd like that).

We've been through this ad nauseum.

[InTime]

Scoring: IMP

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For interest here are the full hands. What is responder suppose to do with 3♥ or 4♥ as a splinter? IMO it can only create headaches and not help you at all.
Regards

[FrancesHinden]

I don't see why on earth 3D should be forcing.
Even playing good/bad 2NT (which I do in one partnership), a 'good' 3D bid is not forcing.

On this hand I would bid 4D.

[gnasher]

InTime, on Jun 26 2010, 07:14 PM, said:

What is responder suppose to do with 3♥ or 4♥ as a splinter?

Over 3♥ he'd bid 4♣, because he has neither a heart stop nor spade support. Then we would bid 4♦, he would bid 4♥ as a Bluhmer, and we would bid 6♦.

Over 4♥, he would probably sign off in 4♠, because although his minor-suit cards look useful, his trump void doesn't.

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IMO it can only create headaches and not help you at all.

If you've already made up your mind, there's not much point in seeking other opinions, is there?

[InTime]

gnasher, on Jun 26 2010, 02:38 PM, said:

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IMO it can only create headaches and not help you at all.

If you've already made up your mind, there's not much point in seeking other opinions, is there?

I can assure you that I appreciate all opinions and they are all welcome. However, I have also my own opinion in regards to certain approaches. In that I am not repudiating any opinions . . . if it works for the partnership then I have really nothing to say about it.
All I was trying to say that I am not sure that a bid of 3♥ or 4♥ would have helped me going forward.
Regards

[aguahombre]

Frances covers good/bad. Even if available, this hand is much too strong for a pressure 3D rebid. I really like the idea of 4D, which seems an attempt to avoid torturing responder with unclear follow-ups. For instance a heart cue, then 4D/4C might sound like a cue for clubs or still searching for strain with club tolerance and only 4 diamonds.

If you think starting with a heart cue could never be confusing, you haven't been watching the trials on Vugraph where some really silly contracts are reached after long, conplicated auctions where we non-sophisticated souls would have faired better.