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Posted 2010-June-25, 12:08

hi bluecalm: I agree with your post (and with the probability that the odds don't quite get to even on this hand-type) but I didn't read han's post as you did....I thought he was arguing that the odds significantly favour bidding, while I had said the odds were almost the same on either side of the decision...which I think you acknowledge.
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Posted 2010-June-25, 13:39

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I thought he was arguing that the odds significantly favour bidding, while I had said the odds were almost the same on either side of the decision...which I think you acknowledge.


Yes I think it's very close and depends very much on system/style and on your preferred way of losing (by going down in games or by not bidding them) :D
I definitely prefer going down and I hate +150's :-)
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Posted 2010-June-25, 14:06

bluecalm, on Jun 25 2010, 05:07 PM, said:

1. So what would you bid with this hand ?

2. I think passing opener hands is an error if there is any.

1. Force to game. I've seen GF 2/1s being done on hands far lousier than this one, in terms of playing strength :D

2. And next time responder has a worthless 11 and 3NT goes down on normal defence.
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