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#1 User is offline   ArtK78 

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Posted 2010-June-21, 08:21

Scoring: IMP

(2) - ?


What is your plan?
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Posted 2010-June-21, 08:27

I would bid 3H if it's a stop ask, 4D if it's not leaping michaels, 3D if leaping michaels, not quite strong enough for 5D I think...
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Posted 2010-June-21, 08:28

Ditto gwnn, for me that means 3H.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 09:12

3D.

Wait and See.

3H - would be MIchaels for us
4D - would be Leaping Michaels for us

May not be the best agreement, but than ...

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Posted 2010-June-21, 09:27

I considered 3, but I thought it was an underbid.

I considered 3, which I am reasonably sure would have been interpreted as a stopper ask, but since I was also wide open in clubs, I felt that it would be too risky.

I chose double, intending to rebid 3 over any simple response. I decided that I could handle most responses and, since I held 2 hearts the chance that partner would pass out 2x was small.

This worked out well. Partner bid 2, I bid 3 and partner bid 3NT. Double dummy 3NT could be beaten one trick, but in practice it made with an overtrick. Partner held:

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The opening lead was a spade, so 10 tricks rolled in.

LHO had a singleton A, and the preempter had Axx of clubs. Par in 3NT is down one (heart lead, clubs through declarer's K, not covering twice - defense takes 3 clubs and 2 hearts). Fortunately, they did not find the heart lead, as I am sure that my partner would try to make 3NT by covering either the first or second round of clubs, thus going down 3 tricks.

However, even that would have won IMPs. At the other table, my hand bid 3, intending it to be a stopper ask. It was interpreted as Michaels, and 4 was the final contract. Not particularly elegant. The result was down 4.

By the way, the actual par contract on the hand is 4 (or 3), as 10 tricks in diamonds is the limit on the hand with the A offside.

My choice of double worked out well here. Any comments?
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Posted 2010-June-21, 09:55

don't double with a doubleton major unless they force you by violence (or a few other cases)

don't double with a solid suit.

don't double on this hand.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 09:58

Double followed by 3D seems right on playing strength, but I'd be worried that partner bids 3S. I'd pretty much have to bid 4D which gets us passed what I think is our most likely game. I think that 3H in a regular partnership is better.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 09:59

I'd be most worried if partner passes our double.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 10:17

I don't care for double.

If you have 3 available for a stopper ask, why wouldn't you use it? Having an open off suit isn't unusual.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 10:49

I play 3 as minors, not that I am happy about it actually.

I'll just bid 3 here
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Posted 2010-June-21, 11:09

agree with han
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Posted 2010-June-22, 17:00

Playing 3 as a stopper ask, bid 3 pleeeeeease.
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Posted 2010-June-22, 21:20

jdonn, on Jun 22 2010, 05:00 PM, said:

Playing 3 as a stopper ask, bid 3 pleeeeeease.

This works. Even if not asked, partner might bid 3NT/3D. He gets to look at his hand.

Like Fluffy, 3H=minors for us. Unlike Fluffy, we are ok with it.
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Posted 2010-June-23, 00:41

another 3 as minors and I'm ok with it. Stoppers are for wimps ahah

3 on this hand thus.
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