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this ia a hand i observed this AM; i did pose this to quite a few stars online ; will give you the majority answer later on ; in the interim hope this can get you entertained :
the hand is AKQ74 AK AJT9 97 played 16 times here on BBO 6 1S open 5 2nt open 4 2C and one oddball 2S ( must be strong 2)
what is you vote ?
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How Do you open second seat ? all VUL Open 1S 2NT or 2C ?
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Posted 2010-June-11, 21:00
2C
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Posted 2010-June-11, 21:23
1 Spade of course, not even close to open 2 Clubs.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 00:25
1S. This is a powerful hand, but it is hard to bid 2 suited hands if you open 2C. Also, it is not worth a gf.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 17:09
I would open this in whatever way I have to show 22-23balanced.
I guess in standard it means 2♣ and then 2NT rebid.
I guess in standard it means 2♣ and then 2NT rebid.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 17:21
1♠.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 17:22
2c. this is not a 2 suiter. this is a bunch of points.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 18:17
The_Hog, on Jun 12 2010, 02:25 AM, said:
1S. This is a powerful hand, but it is hard to bid 2 suited hands if you open 2C. Also, it is not worth a gf.
What he said.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 18:56
2♣, there are too many possibilities of 1♠ being passed around when game is on (xxx xxxxx Qxx xx). 2NT with this 5-4 without clubs is not very nice either.
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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 19:00
2C i'll treat this as 22-23 bal.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 19:06
jjbrr, on Jun 12 2010, 06:00 PM, said:
2C i'll treat this as 22-23 bal.
Sombrero +1, 2C -> 2NT
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Posted 2010-June-12, 19:09
2♣.
Will rebid 2♠ over a positive 2♦ response, but 2NT over a negative 2♥.
Will rebid 2♠ over a positive 2♦ response, but 2NT over a negative 2♥.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 20:53
1s but if your prefer 2c fine npp.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 21:13
How can you treat this as 22-23 balanced? I think on average if partner has 3 spades we belong in 4S instead of 3N, but also that describing your hand as 22-23 balanced instead of strong with spades and diamonds is ridiculous for slam bidding.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 21:45
In order or preference for me
1. 1S, rebid GF if partner responds
Following options are inferior but not completely crazy
2. 2C, rebid 2S
3. 2C, rebid 2NT but only if we have Puppet Stayman
Really bad: open 2NT. I don't have objection to having 5-card major, but the hand is just otherwise not right for 2NT.
1. 1S, rebid GF if partner responds
Following options are inferior but not completely crazy
2. 2C, rebid 2S
3. 2C, rebid 2NT but only if we have Puppet Stayman
Really bad: open 2NT. I don't have objection to having 5-card major, but the hand is just otherwise not right for 2NT.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 22:35
Seems to me if it's not right for 2NT because of shape, it's not right for 2C followed by 2NT either. For me, this is not a NT hand. If I were to open it 2C (which I wouldn't) I would rebid 2S. For me, 1S, followed probably by a 3D JS. If I were playing Romex, I'd open it 1NT.
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Posted 2010-June-13, 04:48
oh yes, I bid 2C then 2S. This may sound like a contradiction with my prior assessment that this is not a 2 suiter but a bunch of points, but of course it is not really. 2C accurately describes my point range and if our auction becomes crowded, I'm OK with just mentioning my spades. anyway what I was trying to say was that the old adage 'dont open 2C with a 2 suiter' should apply more often to hands with long minors or long hearts rather than long spades.
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Posted 2010-June-13, 07:16
1♠>2NT>2♣
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Posted 2010-June-13, 08:10
2C. It's all vul, RHO has passed, so now the chances of partner passing is a bit higher when game could be cold (could be a 4S or 3NT or 4H or 5D game) and also the opponents are unlikely to be preempting like mad. Actually if they do preempt like mad I'm more than happy to defend!
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Posted 2010-June-13, 09:08
I have survey more than 20 stars here;
majority close to 65 % said 1S more than a few 1S responders DO NOT flaw the 2C ( ie they can go along with it)
somehow when you think about it is 2C is " I have a hand 1 trick short of game "
this is only the 1S opener in standard method. However if you go by " I have much more quick winners than losers" " If i open 1s partner pass onme, I will be sick " then 2C is your choice
btw, the partner had is XXXX JXXXXX K XX at the table I kib this East pass the 1S open by his partner; wich I cud yell him back to bridge school .
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majority close to 65 % said 1S more than a few 1S responders DO NOT flaw the 2C ( ie they can go along with it)
somehow when you think about it is 2C is " I have a hand 1 trick short of game "
this is only the 1S opener in standard method. However if you go by " I have much more quick winners than losers" " If i open 1s partner pass onme, I will be sick " then 2C is your choice
btw, the partner had is XXXX JXXXXX K XX at the table I kib this East pass the 1S open by his partner; wich I cud yell him back to bridge school .
Precpj