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Posted 2009-November-09, 03:45

double
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3 and pass.

2 wouldn't show this hand for me, jsut a strong hand.
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Posted 2009-November-10, 03:13

gnasher, on Nov 7 2009, 06:12 PM, said:

1. Double.  Shows two places to play, which is what I have.  I don't particularly want to play 3 in a 4-3 fit instead of 3/4 in a 5-4.

If I were planning to drive game, I'd bid 4

2. 2.  If that doesn't show this, what does it show?

3. Double.  Still shows two places to play, which is what I have again.

Agree with all those choices, and especially with the concept that a double shows 2 places to play.
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Posted 2009-November-10, 18:57

jdonn, on Nov 8 2009, 03:36 AM, said:

1. 3, I play double is general value showing and tends to be a balanced hand, so I don't want partner to get the wrong impression.
2. 2. Shows my values, blocks a 2 bid, I will be delighted to double if LHO feels pressured into 3, and I'm well placed to bid 3 if rho balances with 3 which is relatively likely.
3. 3, still a bit unbalanced to double and a bit weak as well.

These bids and thoughts sum up my feelings on it as well.

2 seems like a possibly better "ideal bidding" start, but it leaves us more vulnerable to the opponents imo. I don't know that I'd like 3c p 4c ? for example. At the table, 2 rapidly communicates what is most likely to matter (imo) to partner immediately. If it goes p p RHO has a high likelihood of balancing back in with 3 and I can worry about diamonds then.
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