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What's this double? Passed hand

Poll: What is double of 5D by a passed hand? (42 member(s) have cast votes)

What is double of 5D by a passed hand?

  1. Penalty (12 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  2. Takeout with some freak distribution (10 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

  3. Takeout; can be 4414 or something with a max pass (12 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  4. Just "cards" -- almost any maximum passed hand (6 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  5. Something else (2 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

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#1 User is offline   awm 

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Posted 2009-September-19, 18:26

Pass-Pass-5♦-Pass-Pass-X

How would you interpret this double?
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Posted 2009-September-19, 18:50

I think it's some sort of 'I can't believe they preempted at the 5-level and you are fourth in hand and didn't do anything' double.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-September-19, 22:52

void in diamonds is typical, takeout but partner will still pass very often at such a high level so you have good defense. Stiff D is possible with KTxx ATxx x KTxx or whatever, but Kxxx Qxxxx --- Axxxx type would be typical.
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Posted 2009-September-19, 23:03

Secondary question is "Is it a good idea to double on such hands?"
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Posted 2009-September-19, 23:17

zheddh, on Sep 20 2009, 12:03 AM, said:

Secondary question is "Is it a good idea to double on such hands?"

absolutely
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Posted 2009-September-20, 00:18

I would think it is takeout and partner can expect a singleton or void in diamonds. However, partner probably leaves it in more often than bids if he has values and a few diamonds.
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Posted 2009-September-21, 03:57

Jlall, on Sep 20 2009, 01:52 PM, said:

but Kxxx Qxxxx --- Axxxx type would be typical.

I have really never seen this in your posts before. You submit a 14carder?
I guess you meant Kxxxx,Qxxxx,-Axxxx :P
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Posted 2009-September-21, 09:07

Short diamonds and 2 Aces
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Posted 2009-September-21, 13:21

Codo, on Sep 21 2009, 04:57 AM, said:

Jlall, on Sep 20 2009, 01:52 PM, said:

but Kxxx Qxxxx --- Axxxx type would be typical.

I have really never seen this in your posts before. You submit a 14carder?
I guess you meant Kxxxx,Qxxxx,-Axxxx :ph34r:

:) Meant 544 I guess, doesn't really matter which way but 5 hearts would be the best.
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Posted 2009-September-23, 04:23

Hanoi5, on Sep 20 2009, 08:50 AM, said:

I think it's some sort of 'I can't believe they preempted at the 5-level and you are fourth in hand and didn't do anything' double.

I doubt if the third could bid 5♦ directly after 2 Pass, The fourth couldn't do anthing?? just Double?
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