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#1 User is offline   luke warm 

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Posted 2009-June-08, 11:03

at the risk of being flamed big time, i have to say that daniel craig is the best bond of them all ... sorry sean
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Posted 2009-June-08, 15:01

I miss the obligatory poll concerning this statement B)
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Posted 2009-June-08, 15:28

Sean Connery is awesome but I prefer Pierce Brosnan to be honest, he's funnier. Am I going to be killed now?
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Posted 2009-June-08, 15:34

No way!

Roger Moore was unreachable in the elegance of making and drinking Martini coctails!
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Posted 2009-June-08, 23:22

Moore was OK, had style, but didn't hold a shadow to Connery.

Brosnan was awful.

Timothy Dalton was worse.

George Lazenby is a trivia question.

But....Daniel Craig is the best Bond ever,
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Posted 2009-June-09, 16:32

Roger Moore was the Saint. He was the Saint on the Saint, and he was the Saint in the Bond movies.

Now, I happen to like the Saint character. So I like Moore's Bond.

Craig's Bond - is a very interesting character. I don't like him much - and the difference in elegance between Fleming's Casino Royale and Craig's is palpable (sorry, poker devotees, but even with million-franc plaques, not the same cachet as Baccarat). The movies - oh yes, I do like me the movies. But are they Bond movies? Not sure. They look a lot like Bourne movies...
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Posted 2009-June-09, 16:34

I really enjoyed the first craig/bond movie. The second one was average/loud at best.

I'll take Connery.

Yes the saint was fun tv as was DangerMAN(Secret agent man)/The prisoner/Avengers. Am rewatching all the old Man from Uncle tv shows (4 years) off of Netflix
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Posted 2009-June-09, 16:46

Yeah - when they realize that ShakyCam is a nice spectacular effect, but pales when done for 50 minutes of a movie, it might start getting better. I've seen the first ten minutes of that second one twice, and still can't tell who's in which car.
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Posted 2009-June-09, 16:47

mycroft, on Jun 9 2009, 05:32 PM, said:

the difference in elegance between Fleming's Casino Royale and Craig's is palpable (sorry, poker devotees, but even with million-franc plaques, not the same cachet as Baccarat).

Gotta disagree. I think Fleming dropped the ball here. IMO, given that Bond is
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I don't see him having the temperment or the inclination to pay a house commission to flip coins. I have much more respect for the character, and find him more believable, playing a game of skill.
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Posted 2009-June-10, 01:35

Ahh well considering most of us are bridge freaks on here then surely we give extra brownie points for Roger Moore as Bond in Moonraker where he played that "deadly" bridge hand!
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Posted 2009-June-10, 02:37

pokerbids, on Jun 10 2009, 02:35 AM, said:

Ahh well considering most of us are bridge freaks on here then surely we give extra brownie points for Roger Moore as Bond in Moonraker where he played that "deadly" bridge hand!
http://www.bridgehan...erland_Hand.htm

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Posted 2009-June-10, 03:03

1. Connery, a real actor
2. Brosnan very british
3. Moore close to perfect


Craig is okay, but I prefer the Bonds with humor, sex and Q with his tricks.

I agree that the new Bonds are like Bournes. Not bad at all, but ...
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Posted 2009-June-10, 03:14

Codo, on Jun 10 2009, 04:03 AM, said:

1. Connery, a real actor
2. Brosnan very british
3. Moore close to perfect


Craig is okay, but I prefer the Bonds with humor, sex and Q with his tricks.

I agree that the new Bonds are like Bournes. Not bad at all, but ...

hmmm are you sure about your facts? :)


1) brosnan Irish?
2) connery scottish
3) moore a saint......


in any case ya last bond not bondish enough too much bourn.......agree bourn is great but let bond be bond !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 2009-June-10, 03:20

I think Craig makes for a Bond one can believe in. I found Moore much more entertaining, though. Haven't seen any of the others I think. I may be wrong, I rarely pay attention to the names of the actors. But I would probably have recognized Connery.
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Posted 2009-June-10, 07:02

Ian Fleming created the character to escape from the dreariness of the post WWII mindset. All of the books were basically about a paper-thin character who lived life on the edge so he had to drink and womanize and be heroic in epic proportions. The storylines were basic and predictable but the ironic humor was the heartbeat of the books.

Connery reflected that ethos with panache. Craig seems to have a good take on this line despite the current propensity for pyrotechnics and stunts. The others were just charicatures of the image.
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Posted 2009-June-10, 07:45

mike777, on Jun 9 2009, 05:34 PM, said:

I really enjoyed the first craig/bond movie. The second one was average/loud at best.

I'll take Connery.

Yes the saint was fun tv as was DangerMAN(Secret agent man)/The prisoner/Avengers. Am rewatching all the old Man from Uncle tv shows (4 years) off of Netflix

i know it's sometimes hard to separate the movie from the character, but to me craig is quite a bit better than connery (who is, imo, his only competition)... especially in casion royale we see the beginning and end of any humanity or morality bond may have had, and craig captured that perfectly... while the criticism of solace (bourne-like, for example) may have been warranted, i still prefer craig's characterization
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Posted 2009-June-10, 08:04

I'm still waiting for them to cast Angelina Jolie

Bond... James Bond....

She'd kill in the role
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Posted 2009-June-10, 08:49

I think it is too early to call between connery and craig. Craig has had an impressive start, but the second movie wasn't as good as the first, and I am waiting to see how number 3 is. Of course, a lot depends on the script and the director.

Craig is certainly more in tune with today's expectations.... looks of frenetic action... and more graphic violence... than Connery's performances seem when one watches an older Bond movie... but, judged in the context of their times, the Connery versions were very good.

I agree with the comparison of the Craig Bond to Bourne... except that Craig is a much better actor than Damon.

I never liked Moore...as Bond... he seemed too detached from the role... the antithesis of Craig who seems to be the role.... as was Connery in his best films. But Moore has never claimed to be an 'actor'.
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Posted 2009-June-10, 10:22

hrothgar, on Jun 10 2009, 09:04 AM, said:

I'm still waiting for them to cast Angelina Jolie

Bond... James Bond....

She'd kill in the role

and some of the love scenes would be ... interesting
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Posted 2009-June-10, 10:28

luke warm, on Jun 10 2009, 07:22 PM, said:

hrothgar, on Jun 10 2009, 09:04 AM, said:

I'm still waiting for them to cast Angelina Jolie

Bond...  James Bond....

She'd kill in the role

and some of the love scenes would be ... interesting

One might predict Skinemax to grab the distribution rights...
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