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Tell me what you want... ...what you really, really want

Poll: Your bid: (28 member(s) have cast votes)

Your bid:

  1. Pass, it is penalty (25 votes [89.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 89.29%

  2. 3S, it is negative (2 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  3. 4C, it is negative (1 votes [3.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

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#1 User is offline   Poky 

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  Posted 2008-September-24, 05:08

All love. IMP.

1♥ 2♣ pass pass
2NT pass 3♥ Dbl
pass ??

♠Kxx
♥xx
♦Kx
♣AJT98x
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#2 User is offline   helene_t 

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Posted 2008-September-24, 05:16

Should be penalty but unless opps are funny it looks unlikely. If they play 4-card majors I suppose p could theoretically have ♥AKQJ.
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Posted 2008-September-24, 05:19

It's penalties. It's inconceivable that partner has spades and diamonds, couldn't bid on the previous round, and now wants to play at the three or four level knowing of a strong hand on his left.

In the given auction that's particularly clear, but I think that advancer's double should be penalties in all sequences where he passes the overcall and then doubles after opener protects, even this one:
  1♥   2♣   pass pass
  dbl  pass 2♥   dble
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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#4 User is offline   ewj 

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Posted 2008-September-24, 06:04

Yeh, I agree, has to be blood. Partner could have something like KQT and dummy's unlikely to have many entries.
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Posted 2008-September-24, 06:08

X is penalty, ... at least strongly suggesting going
for blood.

Partner denied a club fit as well, if he has one, he
should have shown the fit the round before, hence
4C is out.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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#6 User is offline   han 

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Posted 2008-September-24, 07:02

Penalty.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
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Posted 2008-September-24, 11:00

Clearly penalty of course.

But this is also a brutal lead problem, no?
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Posted 2008-September-24, 11:26

xcurt, on Sep 24 2008, 09:00 AM, said:

Clearly penalty of course.

But this is also a brutal lead problem, no?

Not only is it a brutal lead problem, but it is also a brutal thread title and sub-heading.

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#9 User is offline   han 

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Posted 2008-September-24, 12:06

I don't think it is a brutal lead problem.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
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Posted 2008-September-24, 14:09

The double is penalties. Pass and lead a trump.
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Posted 2008-September-24, 14:39

I think being able to lead trumps from a doubleton on this auction is pretty brutal - for the opponents.
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