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#1 User is offline   Gerben42 

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Posted 2008-February-21, 03:54

Scoring: IMP


1 - 1
2 - 2*
3NT - 6

Lead: 7
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Posted 2008-February-21, 03:58

heh
finesser's paradise.


edit --
you can try to set up some sort of a squeeze, but i think you need to get lucky in trump and still have something else work to make this.
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Posted 2008-February-21, 04:15

I will try to set up a dummy reversal.

A
J ruffed (covered or not)
to Q

a ) if RHO takes and returns hearts, I'll follow my initial plan, my entries are intact

b ) if RHO takes and return diamonds killing an entry
AKQ
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-> / squeeze on LHO or finesse or / show-up squeeze on RHO
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Posted 2008-February-21, 04:18

Poky, what if RHO doesn't take Q?

Mat² what do you make of the lead?
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Posted 2008-February-21, 04:49

Gerben42, on Feb 21 2008, 05:18 AM, said:

Poky, what if RHO doesn't take Q?

Mat² what do you make of the lead?

the smartass answer would be, the same thing i make of the auction.
it would help to know if they lead 3/L or 4th or 2/4 or what... I suppose it could be a stiff, but it seems somewhat unlikely.
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Posted 2008-February-21, 04:55

Gerben42, on Feb 21 2008, 11:18 AM, said:

Poky, what if RHO doesn't take Q?

Hmm. Now I have additional chances. Probably I will play:
A
K
A
Run J if not covered (throwing spades)...

What happens?
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Posted 2008-February-21, 05:09

I'd play low at trick one, with the idea of making (assuming trumps break) when the heart is right, or SQ is doubleton, or spades are 3-3, or the diamond is right. (I was going to say something about a showup squeeze as well, but that needs LHO to be 4=2=6=2.)

The alternatives I considered and rejected are:

- Cash two top spades and take a ruffing finesse in hearts. If it loses, I'll need the diamond finesse and may also need to ruff a diamond in dummy, so I can't draw more than one trump.

- Ruff a heart (trying to tempt a cover first) and take a diamond finesse. If it wins, hope it keeps winning. If it loses, realise that I have insufficient entries for a dummy reversal and revert to the spade finesse.

I wouldn't place much reliance on the spot card they led - it's dummy's first-bid suit, after all.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-February-21, 05:30

Small heart at T1 for me too. No particular reason to believe that the K is wrong.
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Posted 2008-February-21, 09:00

I hope that my RHO doesn't have seven hearts to the KING, so I duck this trick. If RHO wins the king, I will play for clubs to be friendly. This gives me 3 tricks (after losing the king), 5 and 2 and 1 off the top (again assuming clubs behave). I can then combine chances in spades and diamond.

A possible line is...

1. loses to king.
2. back, pitch a diamond, win in dummy.
3-5. 's. (clubs must split if heart king lost)
6. K
7. A (has spade queen fallen.. if so claim, if not
8-9. AJ (pitch Jack and a diamond
10. ruff (did spade split 3-3, if so claim), if not, then hook king

This line seems to work when clubs behave and
1. king is on side (i can give up a diamond and take 2H, 2S, 3D, 5C)
2. king offside and spade queen doubleton anywhere
3. king offside and spades 3-3
4. king offside, spades 4-2 no doubleton queen, but king onside
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Posted 2008-February-21, 09:34

HIDDEN what I did (didn't work too well though).

Spoiler


I guess I should stop listening to my intuition. Apparently I don't have any.
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Posted 2008-February-21, 10:10

The lead smells a big Rat, this auction is blatantly asking for a spade or diamond lead.

win Q, and try finese.
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Posted 2008-February-21, 11:10

gnasher, on Feb 21 2008, 03:09 AM, said:

I'd play low at trick one, with the idea of making (assuming trumps break) when the heart is right, or SQ is doubleton, or spades are 3-3, or the diamond is right. (I was going to say something about a showup squeeze as well, but that needs LHO to be 4=2=6=2.)

The alternatives I considered and rejected are:

- Cash two top spades and take a ruffing finesse in hearts. If it loses, I'll need the diamond finesse and may also need to ruff a diamond in dummy, so I can't draw more than one trump.

- Ruff a heart (trying to tempt a cover first) and take a diamond finesse. If it wins, hope it keeps winning. If it loses, realise that I have insufficient entries for a dummy reversal and revert to the spade finesse.

I wouldn't place much reliance on the spot card they led - it's dummy's first-bid suit, after all.

This is what I was thinking too. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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