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Unusual Vs. Unusual Choose your bid?

#1 User is offline   TheoKole 

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Posted 2008-January-21, 00:40

Scoring: IMP


1 -> (2 NT)* -> 3 ** -> (6 ) -> ???


An interesting hand I played from a local tournament last night.

You open the bidding 1
* Unusual 2 NT (showing + )
** Unusual vs Unusual 3 (showing a forcing to game bid with )

Your bid?

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Posted 2008-January-21, 01:05

I'd say 6 hearts to invite a grand, but there's no way partner's accepting with no aces. What the heck, 7 spades. It's a 34 point deck (assuming the opps have the KQJ of diamonds among their 11-12 diamonds), and it's hard to imagine a GF bid from partner that does not have the KQ of spades and K of clubs.
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Posted 2008-January-21, 01:40

An interesting question is which opponents is more likely to have a void outside of spades. I would think RHO, so maybe I should bid 7 to let partner play 7?
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Posted 2008-January-21, 01:52

cherdano, on Jan 21 2008, 02:40 AM, said:

An interesting question is which opponents is more likely to have a void outside of spades. I would think RHO, so maybe I should bid 7 to let partner play 7?

Not a bad thought, but I think LHO is more likely void in clubs since I think rho is void in spades. Something of a guess I admit, so I'll go with a 7 bid.

If I didn't want to bid the grand now I would see no alternative to the strongest invite, which is pass then pull the presumed double to 6. To me that would show control in both red suits, and whatever I hold in the black suits partner just has to do the best he can based on implication.
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Posted 2008-January-21, 03:09

Put me down for 7 as well.

CSGibson, on Jan 21 2008, 02:05 AM, said:

it's hard to imagine a GF bid from partner that does not have the KQ of spades and K of clubs.

I'm just hoping that either partner has KQxxxx or KQJxx of spades which should be sufficient even in the cases of bad spade breaks. But LHO can't have more than 3 spades, and I find it hard to imagine RHO preemptively jumping to the 6 level with 4 spades on this auction (even with a huge diamond fit). If he feared our fit was clubs, 5 would be sufficient to make finding the club slam(s) difficult.
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Posted 2008-January-21, 06:23

I'm gonna bid 7, which should be 75%: if pard doesn't have the K, maybe I can finesse it :)
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Posted 2008-January-21, 06:38

6S.

Maybe partner reads 6H as some
kind of grand slam try for spades,
but I would never try this live, ...
I would, but I dont believe that to
be a great idea.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2008-January-21, 11:25

I expect to make 7, and that's what I'd bid.
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Posted 2008-January-22, 02:57

Thanks for all the replies, I bid 7 spades, for all the reasons that were listed above.

My partner had the Kx and KQJxxx of spades like a good partner should, :) and 7 spades came rolling in.

After the 6 diamond bid kept me from asking about the trump suit via Ace asking and then the searching for the K of clubs, I was forced to guess.

I decided to bid 7 spades instead of 7 hearts (for my partner to play the hand) because I judged more likely a club void in LHOs hand than a heart void in RHOs hand.

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