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Posted 2008-January-15, 04:08
none of the above 
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Posted 2008-January-15, 04:44
Don't know yet, but surely for someone who won't launch a preemptive war based on a hunch that someone doesn't like the USA.
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Posted 2008-January-15, 06:50
I've done the 30-question test and it said I should vote for Obama based on issues. I think he'd be a good president too so I guess I would vote for him.
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Posted 2008-January-15, 07:38
Comment 1: I'd vote for any Democrat (except maybe for Gravel) over any Republican.
Comment 2: I'm not particularly enthusiastic about any of the Democratic candidates.
These days, the Clinton era looks like a Golden Age, but I can't get over the fact that Bill was a triangulating weasel who sold out the Democrats on half the parties core principles. I doubt Hillary will be any better. Moreover, I think that putting another Clinton into office virtually guaruntees 8 years of deadlocked government which the country can't affort right now.
I have a lot of respect for Obama, but I don't like a lot of his positions. He's too far to the right for me on a lot of issues. Moreover, I think that his health care plan is flawed. On the other hand, I do think that he has some chance of creating bipartisan compromise. Clinton is trying to claim that her experience makes her a viable agent of change. However, I think that Obama has a much better chance of pushing through a legislative agenda.
I will (reluctantly) be casting a vote for Obama in the Massachusetts primary while wishing that Dean or Feingold was running....
Comment 2: I'm not particularly enthusiastic about any of the Democratic candidates.
These days, the Clinton era looks like a Golden Age, but I can't get over the fact that Bill was a triangulating weasel who sold out the Democrats on half the parties core principles. I doubt Hillary will be any better. Moreover, I think that putting another Clinton into office virtually guaruntees 8 years of deadlocked government which the country can't affort right now.
I have a lot of respect for Obama, but I don't like a lot of his positions. He's too far to the right for me on a lot of issues. Moreover, I think that his health care plan is flawed. On the other hand, I do think that he has some chance of creating bipartisan compromise. Clinton is trying to claim that her experience makes her a viable agent of change. However, I think that Obama has a much better chance of pushing through a legislative agenda.
I will (reluctantly) be casting a vote for Obama in the Massachusetts primary while wishing that Dean or Feingold was running....
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Posted 2008-January-15, 07:42
two in one 
, Brad Pitt and/or Angelina Jolie.
I sure that they will have more support then any of the candidates.
, Brad Pitt and/or Angelina Jolie.I sure that they will have more support then any of the candidates.
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Posted 2008-January-15, 08:50
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Posted 2008-January-15, 09:15
John Edwards, especially if he had Barack as his veep.
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Posted 2008-January-15, 09:26
Gerben42, on Jan 15 2008, 07:50 AM, said:
I've done the 30-question test and it said I should vote for Obama based on issues.
Where is this 30 question test?
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Posted 2008-January-15, 09:58
As someone who has happily lived in a >2 party system my whole life, I wouldn't be voting for the big 2, that's for sure.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.
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Posted 2008-January-15, 12:51
Gerben42, on Jan 15 2008, 10:43 AM, said:
Pretty cool
this says rudy, but it seems other republicans are close.
I am leaning towards McCain but have problems with all of them.
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Posted 2008-January-15, 13:31
mike777, on Jan 15 2008, 01:51 PM, said:
Gerben42, on Jan 15 2008, 10:43 AM, said:
Pretty cool
this says rudy, but it seems other republicans are close.
I am leaning towards McCain but have problems with all of them.
9-11 Rudy? (9-11) Why 9-11 am I (9-11) not sur(9-11)prised......9-11?
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Posted 2008-January-15, 13:38
Excellent! Obama followed by Edwards then Hil and Richardson.
Ron Paul makes it to the center line (but 9-11 Rudy is a low (9-11) second...
with Fred Thompson bringing up the rear.....lol
Ron Paul makes it to the center line (but 9-11 Rudy is a low (9-11) second...
with Fred Thompson bringing up the rear.....lol
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Posted 2008-January-15, 13:56
I will vote for the Democratic candidate. I favor Hillary, but Obama is fine with me.
On the Republican side, I like McCain's stands on most issues. However, after what Bush and his cronies did to him in South Carolina in 2000, I cannot accept his subsequent support of Bush. I lost my respect for him.
On the Republican side, I like McCain's stands on most issues. However, after what Bush and his cronies did to him in South Carolina in 2000, I cannot accept his subsequent support of Bush. I lost my respect for him.
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Posted 2008-January-15, 14:37
hrothgar, on Jan 15 2008, 07:38 AM, said:
I have a lot of respect for Obama, but I don't like a lot of his positions. He's too far to the right for me on a lot of issues.
Which issues? (Not a rhetorical question.)
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Posted 2008-January-15, 14:43
I'm for a Democrat however I'm not sure the USA is ready for any of the top 2 democrats so a republican will win again.
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Posted 2008-January-15, 15:22
jocdelevat, on Jan 15 2008, 03:43 PM, said:
I'm for a Democrat however I'm not sure the USA is ready for any of the top 2 democrats so a republican will win again.
Most republicans would be shocked if a Democrat does not win.
The Democrats are energized and hate Bush and his policies no matter who the Dems put up.
The Republicans are split and would rather lose the election than compromise on some issues.
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Posted 2008-January-15, 16:28
hrothgar, on Jan 15 2008, 08:38 AM, said:
Comment 1: I'd vote for any Democrat (except maybe for Gravel) over any Republican.
Comment 2: I'm not particularly enthusiastic about any of the Democratic candidates.
These days, the Clinton era looks like a Golden Age, but I can't get over the fact that Bill was a triangulating weasel who sold out the Democrats on half the parties core principles. I doubt Hillary will be any better. Moreover, I think that putting another Clinton into office virtually guaruntees 8 years of deadlocked government which the country can't affort right now.
I have a lot of respect for Obama, but I don't like a lot of his positions. He's too far to the right for me on a lot of issues. Moreover, I think that his health care plan is flawed. On the other hand, I do think that he has some chance of creating bipartisan compromise. Clinton is trying to claim that her experience makes her a viable agent of change. However, I think that Obama has a much better chance of pushing through a legislative agenda.
I will (reluctantly) be casting a vote for Obama in the Massachusetts primary while wishing that Dean or Feingold was running....
Comment 2: I'm not particularly enthusiastic about any of the Democratic candidates.
These days, the Clinton era looks like a Golden Age, but I can't get over the fact that Bill was a triangulating weasel who sold out the Democrats on half the parties core principles. I doubt Hillary will be any better. Moreover, I think that putting another Clinton into office virtually guaruntees 8 years of deadlocked government which the country can't affort right now.
I have a lot of respect for Obama, but I don't like a lot of his positions. He's too far to the right for me on a lot of issues. Moreover, I think that his health care plan is flawed. On the other hand, I do think that he has some chance of creating bipartisan compromise. Clinton is trying to claim that her experience makes her a viable agent of change. However, I think that Obama has a much better chance of pushing through a legislative agenda.
I will (reluctantly) be casting a vote for Obama in the Massachusetts primary while wishing that Dean or Feingold was running....
You think Dean is to the left of Obama??? thats hardly clear to me. I think the media really misportrayed Dean last time, since on economic issues he was "moderate to conservative" among the democrats assuming that left/right has meaning there.
e.g.
a. Very pro free trade
b. fiscally conservative/anti deficit spending
c. "pro-business"
(Contrast these with Edwards, for instance)
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Posted 2008-January-15, 16:31
joshs, on Jan 16 2008, 01:28 AM, said:
hrothgar, on Jan 15 2008, 08:38 AM, said:
Comment 1: I'd vote for any Democrat (except maybe for Gravel) over any Republican.
Comment 2: I'm not particularly enthusiastic about any of the Democratic candidates.
These days, the Clinton era looks like a Golden Age, but I can't get over the fact that Bill was a triangulating weasel who sold out the Democrats on half the parties core principles. I doubt Hillary will be any better. Moreover, I think that putting another Clinton into office virtually guaruntees 8 years of deadlocked government which the country can't affort right now.
I have a lot of respect for Obama, but I don't like a lot of his positions. He's too far to the right for me on a lot of issues. Moreover, I think that his health care plan is flawed. On the other hand, I do think that he has some chance of creating bipartisan compromise. Clinton is trying to claim that her experience makes her a viable agent of change. However, I think that Obama has a much better chance of pushing through a legislative agenda.
I will (reluctantly) be casting a vote for Obama in the Massachusetts primary while wishing that Dean or Feingold was running....
Comment 2: I'm not particularly enthusiastic about any of the Democratic candidates.
These days, the Clinton era looks like a Golden Age, but I can't get over the fact that Bill was a triangulating weasel who sold out the Democrats on half the parties core principles. I doubt Hillary will be any better. Moreover, I think that putting another Clinton into office virtually guaruntees 8 years of deadlocked government which the country can't affort right now.
I have a lot of respect for Obama, but I don't like a lot of his positions. He's too far to the right for me on a lot of issues. Moreover, I think that his health care plan is flawed. On the other hand, I do think that he has some chance of creating bipartisan compromise. Clinton is trying to claim that her experience makes her a viable agent of change. However, I think that Obama has a much better chance of pushing through a legislative agenda.
I will (reluctantly) be casting a vote for Obama in the Massachusetts primary while wishing that Dean or Feingold was running....
You think Dean is to the left of Obama??? thats hardly clear to me. I think the media really misportrayed Dean last time, since on economic issues he was "moderate to conservative" among the democrats assuming that left/right has meaning there.
e.g.
a. Very pro free trade
b. fiscally conservative/anti deficit spending
c. "pro-business"
(Contrast these with Edwards, for instance)
I agree that Dean is to the "right" of Obama, however, I find the specific set of centrist positions that Obama has adopted more objectionable than those of Dean
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