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Responding to a T.O. Double IMPs red vs. white
#4
Posted 2007-October-26, 09:54

Scoring: IMP
1♦-Dbl-P-1♠
2♦-2♠-3♦
P-P-P
1♦-Dbl-P-1♠
2♦-2♠-3♦
P-P-P
3♦ down one was not a success as a vul game was available in either major suit. I was the hapless north. Personally, I don't mind doing the bidding for both sides of the table, some say it's the best feature of my game. Just let me know what the ground rules are.
#5
Posted 2007-October-26, 10:00
Interesting hand.
I don't like the initial double. While there are hands where I would double with 4-5 in the majors, I prefer 1H when I have shortness in the unbid minor.
I prefer 2C with the southhand. I don't think the hand is good enough for 2S but it is likely that 2C doesn't end the auction. If I can bid a free 2S next then that gives a pretty accurate description of this hand as with 4-5 I would usually bid spades first.
Having bid 1S initially south needs to make another call in this auction.
I don't like the initial double. While there are hands where I would double with 4-5 in the majors, I prefer 1H when I have shortness in the unbid minor.
I prefer 2C with the southhand. I don't think the hand is good enough for 2S but it is likely that 2C doesn't end the auction. If I can bid a free 2S next then that gives a pretty accurate description of this hand as with 4-5 I would usually bid spades first.
Having bid 1S initially south needs to make another call in this auction.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
- hrothgar
- hrothgar
#6
Posted 2007-October-26, 10:10
Agree with Justin, I'd respond 2♣ too.
Also agree with Han, I'd overcall 1♥ with the north hand rather than double.
Also agree with Han, I'd overcall 1♥ with the north hand rather than double.
Kind regards,
Harald
Harald
#7
Posted 2007-October-26, 10:34
Late to the scene here.
2♣ looks clear to me. Even without looking at the hand diagram, the obvious question is "where are the diamonds"? We are void and pard is supposedly short. LHO either has a lot of diamonds, or pard is rather strong.
Bottom line - we are going to get another shot at this hand and we can afford to show our suits.
I don't care for double with a 4=5=3=1 15 count, but this is partly a matter of style. Its also strange for RHO to pass the double with ♦Kxxx / ♣K.
2♣ looks clear to me. Even without looking at the hand diagram, the obvious question is "where are the diamonds"? We are void and pard is supposedly short. LHO either has a lot of diamonds, or pard is rather strong.
Bottom line - we are going to get another shot at this hand and we can afford to show our suits.
I don't care for double with a 4=5=3=1 15 count, but this is partly a matter of style. Its also strange for RHO to pass the double with ♦Kxxx / ♣K.
"Phil" on BBO
#8
Posted 2007-October-26, 10:53

Justin's non-jump 2♣ response works out OK. The bidding will go 2♣-2♦-2♥ (by me), and we are off and running to our vul game.
As to why responder sandbagged his two kings and 4 card diamond support, I have no idea. It was a BBO pairs game, and my supposed 'Advanced' pick up partner (from ACBL territory) did most things well enough, just not this one.
#9
Posted 2007-October-26, 13:43
jdeegan, on Oct 26 2007, 11:53 AM, said:

Justin's non-jump 2♣ response works out OK. The bidding will go 2♣-2♦-2♥ (by me), and we are off and running to our vul game.
As to why responder sandbagged his two kings and 4 card diamond support, I have no idea. It was a BBO pairs game, and my supposed 'Advanced' pick up partner (from ACBL territory) did most things well enough, just not this one.
Your adv pickup PD's pass of 3♦ is simply very poor with that hand.
As for 1♥ vs dbl, I don't mind doubling, but you risk getting buried by PD in ♣ or that PD may think you have more when you rebid 2♥ showing a hand too good to overcall. However, after overcalling 1♥ you may lose the ♠ suit.
That being said, I slightly prefer to overcall.
I'd respond 2♣ to the double with PD's hand.
Your PD gets the blame on this hand as passing out 3♦ is awful.
.. neilkaz ..
#10
Posted 2007-October-26, 15:13
1. I prefer 1♥ to double (What would you bid if partner responds 3♣ to your t/o?).
2. Over double 2♣a and hope to bid some spades later.
3. Passing 3♦ instead of bidding game is just poor bridge.
2. Over double 2♣a and hope to bid some spades later.
3. Passing 3♦ instead of bidding game is just poor bridge.
#11
Posted 2007-October-26, 15:28
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#12
Posted 2007-October-26, 19:59
I'm even later than Phil
I truly hate the double. And one reason I hate it is that this seems to be a clear 2♣ call... since my shortness in diamonds combined with my modest high card count lead me to expect to have a chance to bid 2♠ next (as do others, of course). That would be a near perfect description of my hand, but partners who double with that North hand don't allow their partners to play bridge. If double is the systemic bid, then 1♠ has to be the systemic response, and that just seems sooo wrong.

I truly hate the double. And one reason I hate it is that this seems to be a clear 2♣ call... since my shortness in diamonds combined with my modest high card count lead me to expect to have a chance to bid 2♠ next (as do others, of course). That would be a near perfect description of my hand, but partners who double with that North hand don't allow their partners to play bridge. If double is the systemic bid, then 1♠ has to be the systemic response, and that just seems sooo wrong.
'one of the great markers of the advance of human kindness is the howls you will hear from the Men of God' Johann Hari
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