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Another balancing problem bread and butter hand

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Posted 2007-March-21, 22:09

Fluffy, on Mar 21 2007, 07:28 AM, said:

2 is an option, but I wouldn't blame him to pass.

Completely agree with Fluffy.
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Posted 2007-March-22, 01:07

Jlall, on Mar 21 2007, 03:53 PM, said:

I'd bid 2D as X then 2D for me is not ELC. I also could not imagine playing raptor after 1S p p, I mean surely you need a natural 1N in pass out seat.

Is there any particular reason why it is MORE important to have available a natural 1NT in the pass-out seat than in direct seat? I mean, I am not saying that it is UNimportant ... in fact I entirely agree with you. But then I also think a natural 1NT is important in direct seat, which is why I currently don't play Raptor in any position (happy to be convinced otherwise, mind).
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Posted 2007-March-22, 07:53

1eyedjack, on Mar 22 2007, 02:07 AM, said:

Jlall, on Mar 21 2007, 03:53 PM, said:

I'd bid 2D as X then 2D for me is not ELC. I also could not imagine playing raptor after 1S p p, I mean surely you need a natural 1N in pass out seat.

Is there any particular reason why it is MORE important to have available a natural 1NT in the pass-out seat than in direct seat? I mean, I am not saying that it is UNimportant ... in fact I entirely agree with you. But then I also think a natural 1NT is important in direct seat, which is why I currently don't play Raptor in any position (happy to be convinced otherwise, mind).

Because you need to be bidding on the weak NT hand types in pass out seat whereas you can pass in balancing seat. You also need to be bidding on the strong NT hand types in pass out seat. So it becomes a little ridiculous when you have so many ranges to cover and you can't even bid a natural 1N. Not to mention that the frequency of having these hand types is a lot higher when your RHO is marked with very few HCP.
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