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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2007-March-14, 10:37

IMPS all vul

AK754
K5
K10962
2

S(you)-N
1-2
4-4
4-6
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sorry not a great deal, but I am bored :/
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Posted 2007-March-14, 10:55

7 obviously

if partner doesn't have diamonds then this is a silly post
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Posted 2007-March-14, 11:00

Is pard unknown? If so, seems like he has a 65 and is bidding naturally. I'd pass and leave it to him to sort out the mess he's created.

Be sure to check all 4 hands and point out how he could have made it on your blatantly double-dummy line :P
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Posted 2007-March-14, 11:24

He either has 5 good hearts (AQJ109) and 6 poor diamonds (Axxxxx) and no ace of clubs, in which case we should pass, or he mis-sorted his red cards at the beginning and has more hearts than diamonds, in which case we should pass.
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Posted 2007-March-14, 11:27

He must have a spade void, which is why no blackwood. But if partner has the red suits, and no red kings, surely he can't have a club loser as well?

7. Partner must be 0-6-5-2 or even more distributional.
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Posted 2007-March-14, 11:28

lol, everyone seems to agree :P

ok, what if partner is not so lunatic and you beleive is his longest suit?
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Posted 2007-March-14, 12:46

Since I have given partner no reason to think that 6H is acceptable, and if he wanted to play 6S or 6N I assume he would have bid it, I guess he is prepared to play in 7D. He apparently can envision some alternative contract as well, but I don't care, I bid 7D. Besides the fact that I don't really understand what is going on, if he is offering 7H as an alternative I don't think I would want to bid 7H and hear a double, presumably followed by a diamond lead.
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Posted 2007-March-14, 12:55

??? For me he has the ace and K of and you should show the K with 6 . He is thinking of NT or and is it to be 6 or 7....
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Posted 2007-March-14, 13:40

Gonzalo, we have a contradiction here:

If his longest suit is not diamonds, he's lunatic
If his longest suit is diamonds, then he must be lunatic to bid this way
If pard is trying to bid as a partnership, he must be lunatic if he expects you to understand his 6 correctly

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Just pass anyway and leave him to sort the mess he created.. lol
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Posted 2007-March-14, 13:50

Does not the splinter agree diamonds as trump? Everything else is a slam try etc.
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Posted 2007-March-14, 16:15

Al_U_Card, on Mar 14 2007, 02:50 PM, said:

Does not the splinter agree diamonds as trump? Everything else is a slam try etc.

He perhaps dont play with splinter, thus he dont know we have diamonds together.

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Posted 2007-March-15, 03:14

My deductions were:

this is IMPs, so no matter to play in major or minor or NT, jsut the correct level.

6 then shouldn't be natural

the correct level then can be iether 6 or 7

partner must then have a playable contract at the 6 level (6 or 6NT)

there is no way 6N is safer than 6 the alternative contract must eb 6

partner is mising something, it must be in the suit he couldn't raise.


partners hand:

J10x
AQxx
AQJxxx
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We bid this on a quicky sesion at MBC on less than a minute, 7= was 1 off hehe.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 05:40

I think those are rather forced reasonings. There are dozens of ways to bid your pard's hand. He just got sloppy and payed for it.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 06:52

I pretty much agree with your reasoning. I was thinking, though didn't say, that partner might well be planning on passing a 6S bid. I guess he was. With all those diamonds, it's hard not to bid 7, as I did and you did. I suppose one could reason further: If partner had really good spades and thinks 7D is maybe playable, he would just bid 7 of one of those suits. Therefore he has modest spades and these will be a problem in 7D as well as in spades. One could think that way. Not crazy, not at all. I expect my partners to have due regard for my lack of imagination however.
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