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Action over 2S at MP's

Poll: Your call? (38 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Pass (5 votes [13.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.16%

  2. 3D (25 votes [65.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 65.79%

  3. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. I would have overcalled 2D initially. (8 votes [21.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.05%

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#1 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2006-February-06, 10:10

Vul vs not at MPs. You hold:

Scoring: MP


RHO opens 1. You pass (do you?). LHO raises to 2.

Back to you.
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Posted 2006-February-06, 10:27

3D, holding my nose.

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Posted 2006-February-06, 11:12

I would have bid 2 the round before.

Not having done that, if the obvious 3 gets axed, it's all my fault for not following the "in quick, out quick" principle.
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Posted 2006-February-06, 11:17

Clear pass followed by 3D for me. I'm from the school where the 2D overcall shows more.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-February-06, 11:41

3D. I would have overcalled 2D at MP. If partner bids 3N I do have prime cards and a 6th diamond (all good for trick taking 3Ns). I think balancing is clear, even though it may not work.
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Posted 2006-February-06, 11:48

Hannie, on Feb 6 2006, 07:17 PM, said:

Clear pass followed by 3D for me. I'm from the school where the 2D overcall shows more.

Me too, but I change schools when I play MP.
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Posted 2006-February-06, 12:45

3D in balance seat

Clear pass first time at unfav vul at MP or IMPs.
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Posted 2006-February-06, 13:09

I discussed a similar hand with a very strong player. He was of the same opinion that say that you get in early if you get in at all.

I don't agree with this philosophy, even though it runs counter to the Overcall Structure idea. I think at the two level, overcalls should be sound.

Balancing - even if the call is made one level higher, is warranted after a) the opponents have found a fit, and b ) the opponents have limited their hands.
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Posted 2006-February-06, 17:55

at MPs, would anyone consider 3D over 1S?
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Posted 2006-February-06, 18:07

luke warm, on Feb 6 2006, 06:55 PM, said:

at MPs, would anyone consider 3D over 1S?

Only after a long night of drinking.
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Posted 2006-February-06, 19:04

whereagles, on Feb 6 2006, 12:12 PM, said:

I would have bid 2 the round before.

Not having done that, if the obvious 3 gets axed, it's all my fault for not following the "in quick, out quick" principle.

ditto.
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Posted 2006-February-06, 19:04

Jlall, on Feb 6 2006, 12:41 PM, said:

3D. I would have overcalled 2D at MP. If partner bids 3N I do have prime cards and a 6th diamond (all good for trick taking 3Ns). I think balancing is clear, even though it may not work.

Justin said everything. Including the (only) possible justification for an immediate WJ to 3 :)
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Posted 2006-February-06, 19:14

Easy pass the first time.
Will balance with 3 now. Surely Im going at most one off, even doubled, vul and whose going to do that at teams?

Would bid 2 at pairs.
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Posted 2006-February-13, 03:55

I would bit 2 instead of pass (not a great hand, but six cards and it is always good to bid - what are you paying your money for?). If I would pass, 3 is clear shot.
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Posted 2006-February-13, 04:09

-200 wont be a good mp result. So i pass.


bidding 3d will only work when it make and they go down in 3s. Or when you play against a weak pair and they sell out.

Against a tough pair you wont play 3d non-doubled often enough to compensate for the risk of -200.


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Posted 2006-February-13, 07:45

In this vulnerability I pass without a blink at IMPs. At MP I might entertain the idea of balancing but if I'm not desperate for a swing, I pass as well.
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Posted 2006-February-13, 08:18

At matchpoints, in the long run, it is not a winning strategy to let the opponents play in two of a major after 1M-P-2M.... As Larry Cohen would say, they have found probably resting at their lawful spot in an eight trump fit.

I don't always disturb the 2M contract on this auction, but I most often will try. The six card suit is reason enough. I will bid 3 and will be happiest if they bid 3 over this all pass.
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Posted 2006-February-13, 08:35

Count me in the "Pass followed by 3" camp...

An immediate 3 looks like a mistake with this much defense
My partner would expect a better hand for a direct 2 overcall
I'm not letting them play 2
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Posted 2006-February-13, 08:56

At this vul, I pass.

Don't want to take the risk to go -200. I think I have to much to loose.

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Posted 2006-February-13, 09:05

I've been doubled before. Should you be so fortunate to find partner with 3D you will not get dbled most days. My opinion is even at pairs this suit is a tad shabby to bid 2D but would likely have risked it especially against softer opponents. If I were to find 3D over me it is not so easy to pass a re-opening dble with minimum values bearing in mind there was no neg dble. That being said I hope partner can take a joke if they bid 3N.
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