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Partner's Double-jump in New Suit After your T/O DBL

#1 User is offline   TWO4BRIDGE 

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Posted 2011-November-27, 21:06

( 1H ) - DBL - ( p ) - 3S = ??

What does 3S show ?
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Posted 2011-November-27, 22:39

Five spades and around 10 points.
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Posted 2011-November-27, 23:57

View PostCascade, on 2011-November-27, 22:39, said:

Five spades and around 10 points.


Hmmm....I would just bid 2 with that. IMO a double jump should show longer and fewer points, K at most outside.

KQTxxx(x) xx xx(x) Kx, but more likely QJTxxxx xx Qx xx.
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Posted 2011-November-28, 01:46

View PostCascade, on 2011-November-27, 22:39, said:

Five spades and around 10 points.


That would be 2 for me. Preemptive raise with 6 spades and few points (something like lower range of 2S opening).
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Posted 2011-November-28, 05:28

2 schools of thought here. Mainstream is a weakish hand with long spades. A method commonly advanced on these forums is for it to be invitational and 5+ spades, thus making an immediate 2S show precisely 4 (or a weak 5 that is being treated as 4).
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Posted 2011-November-28, 06:08

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-November-27, 21:06, said:

( 1H ) - DBL - ( p ) - 3S = ??

What does 3S show ?


1S = 0-7 and 4 spades, 0-4 and 5 spades
2S = 8-10 and 4 spades, 5-7 and 5 spades
3S = 8-10 and 5 spades, 5-7 and 6 spades (with 4 spades and 11+ you bid 2H)
4S = 10-12 and 5 spades, 8-10 and 6 spades

MORE OR LESS :)
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Posted 2011-November-28, 08:18

PART 2 :
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Both Vul

Do you, the doubler, "go" ( 4S ) with:

K Q 9 x
A 10 9
x x
A 9 x x
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Posted 2011-November-29, 02:20

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-November-28, 08:18, said:

PART 2 :
MP
Both Vul

Do you, the doubler, "go" ( 4S ) with:

K Q 9 x
A 10 9
x x
A 9 x x


Not great fan of the dbl...but if partner would open 2S would you go?
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I wouldnt - I dont have anything more than I promised, Q is wasted, give partner something like AJxxxx,xx,Qxx,xx.
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Posted 2011-November-29, 03:51

I would. The hand has aces and the rest of the HCP are all in the correct places. It's close, but when in doubt one must bid these games.
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Posted 2011-November-29, 04:29

I would not have doubled with a balanced 13 and length in opps' suit.
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Posted 2011-November-29, 04:36

I would not have doubled. Now partner will be missevaluating his heart holdings and diamond holdings so its just a guess.
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Posted 2011-November-29, 09:11

For what it is worth, here is the full hand:

MP,     Made 12 tricks when opps' did not take their Diam.

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Posted 2011-November-29, 10:28

How did you make 12? You need to pull 3 trumps and ruff 2 diamonds. Those are mutually exclusive :)

Nevermind.. dummy reversal lol. Play >> bidding eheh.
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Posted 2011-December-03, 20:07

View Postjmcw, on 2011-November-27, 23:57, said:

Hmmm....I would just bid 2 with that. IMO a double jump should show longer and fewer points, K at most outside.

KQTxxx(x) xx xx(x) Kx, but more likely QJTxxxx xx Qx xx.


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